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Wild camping in July

Hi

A friend and i are Planing a trip for Switzerland, to see some its great Nature! But unfortunately we know close to nothing about the place. So here is some questions I am hoping to find an answer to;



1) Is there anny multi day wallks, that would be sutable for a week, with drinking and eating supplies along the way?

2) We don't want to spent time at hotels and prefer non-crowded places.
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that wild camping is not strictly forbidden? So we were hoping to try it out and see what happens. But would it get to cold in the mountains ? Or what type of weather should we prepare for ?

3) is there annything ells we should know about, as we want to be as prepared as we can.

Hoping for an answer

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Old 29.03.2015, 19:05
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Re: Wild camping in July

You could check out "via alpina" - six long distance paths some of which cross Switzerland. I plan to lightweight hike part of one from Modane in France to the end of Lake Geneva up to Brig this summer.

Googling "bivouaking in Switzerland" finds you a helpful little document from the Swiss Alpine club. I'm sure there's lots of other stuff further down the hits too.
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Re: Wild camping in July

I love camping but in my area up on the Jura there are quite a few wild animals that would put me off wild camping - e.g wild boar and my neighbour last year came face to face with a lynx early one morning while walking the dog - a fantastic experience but a bit scary at night.
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Re: Wild camping in July

For wild camping I would head towards the Tessin - "meeting" wild animals is a small risk, or feature, depending on how you see it.

Particularly in July, you will encounter fellow walkers but not in the same volume as in the French areas and Bernese Oberland.
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Re: Wild camping in July

Don't worry about lynx- they are very shy and have never attacked humans! Wildboar with young should not be approached, but won't approach you. As always though, keep food off the ground if you can. The wild life of the Jura is fabulous, chamois, Ibex, foxes, badgers, and 100s of other small mammals, lots of birds of prey including red kites and fabulous wild flowers. A few wolves in past few years- but again very unlikely to attack, honest

How about the Jura Crest long distance walk? Much less touristy- accessible much earlier in the season and much much easier to wild camp all along the route- as long as you respect the land and take rubbish with you, you will be fine. As you can walk all along the top/crest of the Jura, which is flat like molar teeth, whereas the Alps are very sharp like canines and do not link- you have fabulous views of the Swiss plain and the Alps to the south, and Burgundy to the North. Much cheaper too, and much less crowded. The link posted shows the route, and also 4 other long distance routes and regional routes in Switzerland. Happy to offer a field for you to camp one night, a warm shower, hot meal and a washing machine for your clothes. Lots and lots of mountain inns all along the route too.

http://www.wanderland.ch/

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Don't worry about lynx- they are very shy and have never attacked humans!
Same goes for wild boars. Unless you somehow manage to corner them I've never heard of wild boars rampaging and killing sleeping campers. Too much Game of Thrones perhaps?

Edit: Back on topic: July can be pretty rainy. Try to focus on the South side of the Alpine ridge and have a backup up for the North.
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Re: Wild camping in July

Re: "would it be too cold in the mountains" - would a piece of string be too long?

Temperature depends on altitude, not just season... I'm a confirmed couch potato (or below-1500m-potato at any rate), and even I know that much.
If you don't already understand that then I wonder if you should really be going wild camping for your first time in an alpine environment.

I have an idea though. Why don't you give us an idea of the camping gear you have, and then someone (not me) can probably help you figure out what parts of Switzerland that gear would be suitable for in July.
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I love camping but in my area up on the Jura there are quite a few wild animals that would put me off wild camping - e.g wild boar and my neighbour last year came face to face with a lynx early one morning while walking the dog - a fantastic experience but a bit scary at night.
You wouldn't be happy camping in Sequoia Nat.Pk., CA., then?

Every camp place had a lockable metal box for anything edible and toiletries and cosmetics. It was positioned close to the fire place, so you could take out what you needed and cook over the fire.

Just as it was getting dark and I was cooking supper, I took something out to put in a pan, not closing the box, as I was going to return the pack almost immediately.

In those few seconds, I heard a rustling and as I turned round I was almost face to face with a Californian Brown Bear ..... with a bag of my crisps in his mouth - which he ran off, into the trees, with.

No where near as big as grizzlies - but big enough ...... and this was in an official campsite - wild camping is definitely forbidden.

No bears, here, but just big, furry canines.
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You wouldn't be happy camping in Sequoia Nat.Pk., CA., then?

Every camp place had a lockable metal box for anything edible and toiletries and cosmetics. It was positioned close to the fire place, so you could take out what you needed and cook over the fire.

Just as it was getting dark and I was cooking supper, I took something out to put in a pan, not closing the box, as I was going to return the pack almost immediately.

In those few seconds, I heard a rustling and as I turned round I was almost face to face with a Californian Brown Bear ..... with a bag of my crisps in his mouth - which he ran off, into the trees, with.

No where near as big as grizzlies - but big enough ...... and this was in an official campsite - wild camping is definitely forbidden.

No bears, here, but just big, furry canines.
Even though they can be brown, they're actually a black bear Ursus americanus in California. Important distinction since brown bears are larger (think grizzly) and I'd be a bit more cautious around a proper brown bear (black bears you say hello to and walk on). Useless information on a Sunday night, woo!

Also those bears can eat 20.000 calories in a day... wowzers!
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Re: Wild camping in July

We came across a mother black bear with 2 cubs at a campsite on Skyline Drive Shenandoah National Park in Virginia a few years ago- one of the most memorable sights in my life. A huge and brilliant surprise as I had no idea they would be so far East- and only found in the Rockies. Fortunately high up in a massive oak tree which she and the cubs were ripping to bits to get to all the acorns- we sat quietly watching them for 2 hours- she knew we were there, and was not bothered at all. Wow. But yes, Park Rangers and signs kept reminding people about food and litter and how to keep bears away!

None in the Jura- sadly. Friends who have a lodge near Winter Park Co regularly get them by the front door! The lynx were re-introduced in the Jura in the 70s- and it is one of the most successful and (practically) non-controversial re-introduction ever. My parents saw one when cross country-skiing below the Chasseron in the 80s- and I would give a lot to see one one day. Sadly, a young female was killed on the road near our house 4 years ago by a neighbour. An unrecorded female that probably came over from the French side.

To get back to OP- the Jura is max. 1606 m approx at its highest (Chasseron and Chasseral being exactly the same height) so much warmer at night than the Alps depending where you stop, and as MN says- at which altitude! Most of the mountain inns in the Jura have dormitories as well as private rooms- like at the Chasseron and Le Soliat/Creux-du-duVan, which are much cheaper than Hôtels and where you can get a simple meal and a hot shower, every few nights.

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Re: "would it be too cold in the mountains" - would a piece of string be too long?


I have an idea though. Why don't you give us an idea of the camping gear you have, and then someone (not me) can probably help you figure out what parts of Switzerland that gear would be suitable for in July.
But it may be a case of "All the gear but no idea".

What would probably be more useful is if he told us what multi-day walks he has done in the past and then we could suggest suitable routes based on that experience here.
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Even though they can be brown, they're actually a black bear Ursus americanus in California. Important distinction since brown bears are larger (think grizzly) and I'd be a bit more cautious around a proper brown bear (black bears you say hello to and walk on). Useless information on a Sunday night, woo!

Also those bears can eat 20.000 calories in a day... wowzers!
Actually Brown bears are Grizzlies just the larger version as they live in coastal areas and have easier access to food (salmon primarily). Unfortunately there haven't been any Grizzlies in California for more than 100 years but hopefully they'll make it back some day.

And, to be nitpicky, back to TiMow's post, wild camping in Sequoia Natl. Park is definitely not forbidden. You just need to get a permit.
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Re: Wild camping in July

Hi there Baltser

Have you looked at the Swiss Alpine huts ??
These vary from quite comfortable houses, to very small basic shelters. Most are on the top of the mountains here, and all are in the middle of walking paths of mountain trails.

You need to bring your own sleeping bags of covers, as just duvets or blankets are supplied. There might be showers ( if you're lucky ) or just washing facilities.

They are relativly cheap, and can serve evening meal and breakfast.

It's possible to plan multi day walks, walking from hut to hut.

Hope the weather is good for you ...
have a look at ... http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/huts.html
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