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Switzerland in Winter

Hello All,

Please suggest me the best places to visit in switzerland in winters. I'm going there from 22nd Dec to 26th Dec. Also planning to buy swiss rail pass for 5 days.

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Re: Switzerland in Winter

As far as I know, the Dutch generally love ice skating, so if that is true for you, then check out this thread on frozen lakes; there is a good chance the Lac de Joux will be frozen by then (it was last year). Aside from that, Luzern and Bern are the most attractive towns / cities IMO. You can't go wrong with any of the large ski resorts - although at that time of year, you may want to stay away from the resorts that are internationally popular, and stick with those that only the locals know about to avoid some of the tourist traffic. Therefore, Flumserberg might be a reasonable option. Another way to avoid the ski crowds is to choose to go on a day when the weather isn't perfect, that way you'll be able to do a lot more skiing. If you want cross-country skiing then head for the Jura mountains.

Since you'll have a train pass then you'll be able to take advantage of the many beautiful train lines here. A good list of the scenic routes and trains is available on the Swiss Travel System website. In particular, check out the pdf map of the scenic routes on that page. The Golden Pass route from Montreux to Luzern via Interlaken and the Glacier Express from Zermatt to St Moritz are two extremely good ones, but all those listed on that map are nice.

Have fun! Since you're from the Netherlands, you might also be able to take advantage of the info in Dutch on their version of Englishforum: zwitserlandforum.nl.

Anyway, have fun!
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Re: Switzerland in Winter

Thanks for your reply...but i am not particularly interested in skiing. Sight-seeing is what i am planning for. So i would like to know what are the best excursion places during winter.
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Re: Switzerland in Winter

If sightseeing is what you want, then you may still be interested in going to the top of a mountain. I believe that its possible to get a ticket at all of the major mountains to just take the lift to the top to have a look around, and maybe get something to eat in the restaurant that is at the top (exactly as you would do in summer). The major sightseeing mountains were discussed in this thread, look particularly at the last response by Nicky. One mountain that was not discussed in that thread is Rochers de Naye, which is above Montreux and is the main one in the French-speaking part of the country.

Aside from that, check out the towns and train lines that I mentioned in my previous response.
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Re: Switzerland in Winter

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Thanks for your reply...but i am not particularly interested in skiing. Sight-seeing is what i am planning for. So i would like to know what are the best excursion places during winter.
I do understand that you are looking for sightseeing but some of the skiing towns are particularly spectacular and offer other things than just skiing such as sledging or ice skating.

The Rheinfalls near Schaffhausen are very impressive especially after it has been raining.

Going out to Appenzell and into the hills is quite bracing if you enjoy walking in the cold and "popping" into a small local "cafe".

As far as cities are concerned, Zurich, Basel, St. Gallen, Neuchetal, Bern and Luzern are all worth a visit as well as any on Lake Geneva. Going to some of the museums is also a possibility along with actually going up the mountains to walk. Actually heading south while pretty is generally not recommended "in season" as the routes are limited and the traffic heavy.
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Re: Switzerland in Winter

Many thanks Chris & Richard. I went through the link given by you Chris about the mountain tops and it has helped me to plan a trip. we are plannig to visit Zurich, Titlis, Pilatus, Jungfrauch, Zermatt and Bern. We would also like to take the Glacier express, but i dont think we will have time after all this.
what i would like to know is if i can keep any one destination of the above as option and take Glacier express tour. Also what is the best possible place where we can plan our night stay..so that all destinations are comparatively near. Also if you can let me know some bugdet hotels around 40-50 euros per night or so.
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Re: Switzerland in Winter

Personally, I would take the Glacier Express over Zurich any day.

As for cheap hotels, they are not too common in Switzerland. For that price, you may be able to get a private room in a backpacker hostel, you can find those on backpacker.ch. The other source of cheap hotels that I know is "velotels". They are hotels that are quite basic and are designed with the bike tourer in mind (hence the word 'velo' in the name), but they also accept all other kinds of travellers, you can find a list of them on velotel.ch (unfortunately, only in German).

Somewhat central to all of the places that you listed might be Lake Thun / Thunersee: in the towns of Thun, Spiez, or Interlaken. However, it would be challenging to visit all of those places and to return to the same location every night, I might consider staying in a couple of different places during your trip.
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Re: Switzerland in Winter

Too many places for a short visit in peak season. I would do Zürich, (Titlis(Engelberg) and Luzern) OR (Pilatus & Luzern). Then Jungfrau or Zermatt via Bern.

Its normal to try and cram too much into a few days. Take it easy.
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PS: You are right about hotels being expensive 80-90chf per person is normal.


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Many thanks Chris & Richard. I went through the link given by you Chris about the mountain tops and it has helped me to plan a trip. we are plannig to visit Zurich, Titlis, Pilatus, Jungfrauch, Zermatt and Bern. We would also like to take the Glacier express, but i dont think we will have time after all this.
what i would like to know is if i can keep any one destination of the above as option and take Glacier express tour. Also what is the best possible place where we can plan our night stay..so that all destinations are comparatively near. Also if you can let me know some bugdet hotels around 40-50 euros per night or so.
Thanks a lot for your valuable help.
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Re: Switzerland in Winter

Schilthorn might be good for a bit of James Bond memorabilia and potentially a great panoramic view around the alps
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Re: Switzerland in Winter

This is also great, but bear in mind if you are on a tight budget, the cost of simply getting up any of these mountains is expensive : 89chf a person for a return up Schildhorn for example from Stechelberg. Their websites have more info.

There is a great deal of discussion on the rec.travel.europe newsgroups about these kind of itineries. They can be searched via Google Groups web interface.

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Re: Switzerland in Winter

Thanks a lot folks..your information has really helped us a lot in planning our trip.
One more thing, how is the weather around the christmas time in Switzerland and what clothing should we bring. Also for normal excursions do we need snow shoes? or they are required only if we are into winter sports?
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Re: Switzerland in Winter

Here are the average weather stats for Zurich (from the BBC). Cities at similar elevations (400-600m) will be pretty similar to that, for higher elevation take off an average of 0.6 degrees C per 100 metres of elevation increase (therefore, a town at 1000 metres will be about 3 degrees colder than Zurich, on average). However, there are many local variations that make it WAY more complicated. In general, reasonably cold at lower elevations (maybe around 0), and bloody cold on top of a mountain (maybe -20 or lower).

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Re: Switzerland in Winter

In the larger lower level cities, the weather is similar to your home country so just bring warm jackets, gloves and shawls. There is a very good site in Dutch, at www.myswitzerland.com and then select your language I think. http://www.myswitzerland.com/nl.cfm/home If you go to Bern definitely check out the restaurants. If you want cheap (well for the Swiss) Asian food, go the markethall restaurants at Bubenbergplatz opposite the railway station. Anyone in Bern would know these if you cannot find the entrance; they are all located in a large hall.
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Re: Switzerland in Winter

Hi,

I am from Zurich and I am planning to take Berinna express on this weekend 26.12.2010 using tageskarte Gemainde. Few queries from my side... Could some one please answer them

1) I can get a seat reservation(worth 12 CHF in 2nd class) for Berinna express from any of the SBB offices using this tageskarte... Please confirm..

2) I saw the time table of berinna express and came to know that during winter, the POSTAUTO bus will not run from Tirona to Lugano... So, if I take the Berinna express from CHUR to Tirano, then I need to come back again to St.Moritz in the same berinna express(I guess another seat reservation required for this ..is it so..??)

3) So, instead of travelling back again to St.Moritz from Tirano, do you guys help me in taking any other alternative route and in cost effective way..??

4) Or, is there any other way to travel from Tirano to Lugano other than Post Auto bus..? How long would that take to travel from Tirona to Lugano..? Because, on the same day, I want to return back to Zurich.


Or, other than Berinna express, do you suggest any other routes... I don't do Skeing.. I just want some scenic routes to capture the pics in my camera... and a bit roaming in the city


I have Interlaken in my mind(even though I have already visited) and at the same time landing my foot in the Italy is also my dream...


I have visited Titlis, Jugfrau(via Interlaken), Basel, Bern, Lugano, Lucerne, Geneva....


So, please..please help me in this regard...
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