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Old 02.12.2011, 15:04
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Re: UPC Cablecom - NEW HD Box Launching in Nov '11

i don't think the channels one recieves has got anything to do with the box-at least not with the HD box.
And anyhow whether its Cablecom or Swisscom 90% of the program's are pure rubbish!!!
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i don't think the channels one recieves has got anything to do with the box-at least not with the HD box.
Correct. It comes down to the band-width available and where you live.
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Re: UPC Cablecom - NEW HD Box Launching in Nov '11

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I have a 1 year old Cablecom box, no recorder, and receive 13 programmes from the UK plus CNN etc.

bbc-world, bbc1, bbc2, bbc3, bbc4
itv1, itv2, itv3, itv4
channel4, E4, More4, Film4, channel5

How many extra UK programmes can there be? Or are you counting HD channels as new?
Hmmm, so you live in Western Switzerland (Romandie I gather by your public details), have an UPC Cablecom subscription and have access to all the UK channels you describe through the mentioned carrier?

I don't and even asked UPC if it was possible to get BBC Four etc, and was told no, as the the Romandie network didn't carry the signals
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Old 06.12.2011, 11:38
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Re: UPC Cablecom - NEW HD Box Launching in Nov '11

Hm, this could tempt me back to Cablecom's TV services, as long as they offer the BBC and ITV HD channels. Shame the date isn't a bit more precise...
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Old 06.12.2011, 11:50
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...as long as they offer the BBC and ITV HD channels.
BBC HD is part of the current Classic package, I have been watching it a bit recently. Great footage from the BBC!

I don't see ITV HD on their channel lineup though :-(
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Re: UPC Cablecom - NEW HD Box Launching in Nov '11

Ah crap...Swisscom has BBC one HD and ITV 1 HD...suddenly regretting changing over
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BBC HD is part of the current Classic package, I have been watching it a bit recently. Great footage from the BBC!

I don't see ITV HD on their channel lineup though :-(
Yeah, I was hoping they'd add BBC 1 HD and ITV HD (poss C4 HD as well).
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Old 07.12.2011, 11:28
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Re: UPC Cablecom - NEW HD Box Launching in Nov '11

BBC1 HD and ITV1 HD are well overdue, i agree. BBC HD is mostly fluff is you ask me.

Also, 2012 is very vague. Sounds like late 2012 to me. Hurry up and release the damn thing.

Probably by the time it gets to us some of the functionality is mangled. I will believe the revolution when i see it.

Why cablecom are so concerned with beta testing their boxes I do not know... after all every box I have had so far has been buggy in some way anyhow. Just release it already haha. Better still.... friendlykiwi put in a word and let me beta test it.... you will then end up with a good product!

Anyhow, nothing can be worse than Cablecoms billing department. Incorrect, late, missing, you name it, it sux.
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Old 07.12.2011, 14:24
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Re: UPC Cablecom - NEW HD Box Launching in Nov '11

one should be able to choose which box one uses and not just be confined to the box that cabelcom gives.freemarket!
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Old 07.12.2011, 19:00
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one should be able to choose which box one uses and not just be confined to the box that cabelcom gives.freemarket!
You can, with the DigiCard.
Stick it in any receiver with a CI+ slot. TV, settop box, PC card, Recorder. Whatever you want.
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Old 07.12.2011, 19:02
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one should be able to choose which box one uses and not just be confined to the box that cabelcom gives.freemarket!
You can, with the DigiCard.
Stick it in any receiver with a CI+ slot: TV, settop box, PC card, Recorder. Whatever you want.

I have a TV with the DigiCard stuck in
My experience:

Menus on the TV are nicer, EPG is faster and nicer, BUT
Switching channels on the TV is slower than on the cablecom box (3 yr old cablecom box is FASTER at switching channels than my 1 month old TV!!)
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Old 08.12.2011, 12:15
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You can, with the DigiCard.
Stick it in any receiver with a CI+ slot. TV, settop box, PC card, Recorder. Whatever you want.
I have DigiCard in the CI+ slot of my TV and a satellite box connected to the HDMI port of the same TV. I do have an empty CI+ card slot in my sat-receiver: could I put the DigiCard there and use it in there? (I'm at work now, I'll try it later when I'm home...)
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Old 08.12.2011, 12:43
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CC: You will also be able receive a greater choice of English HD channels'.
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Has anyone else had this conversation with CC or know of what's on the horizon with CC new box? I'm a little excited now!

PS: They are replacing my current faulty box with another one for now!
No, actually. I'm not even sure what kind of box I have. I hardly ever watch my Cablecom channels because all of my English choices are bloody BBC, ITV and Channel 4 with a sprinkling of reruns on SyFy and TNT that I don't bloody care to watch, so I spend more time watching commercials on SF, Sieben, or downloading current American programing from iTunes.

In fact... the only conversation I've had recently with Cablecom is "how do I get rid of this bloody box that I'm not using???"
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Old 08.12.2011, 13:08
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I have DigiCard in the CI+ slot of my TV and a satellite box connected to the HDMI port of the same TV. I do have an empty CI+ card slot in my sat-receiver: could I put the DigiCard there and use it in there? (I'm at work now, I'll try it later when I'm home...)
upc cablecom is a cable operator, they do not broadcast via satellite!
So there is no upc cablecom satellite signal to be be received by a satellite receiver

However, if your DVB-S satelite receiver also has a DVB-C cable receiver built in then you could receive the upc cablecom DVB-C cable signals with it.

My Samsung TV has dual DVB-C and DVB-T built in.
There is a slightly more expensive model that had all 3 receivers: DVB-C, DVB-T and DVB-S, plus a CI+ slot, all built in.
Note: only 1 CI+ slot! So you have to decide what CAM module you will fit: a CAM for the satellite service or a CAM for the cable service.

Again, it is a matter of time until the TVs come with multiple CI+ slots.
I already know of at least one settop box that has dual CI+ slots.
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Old 08.12.2011, 13:49
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However, if your DVB-S satelite receiver also has a DVB-C cable receiver built in then you could receive the upc cablecom DVB-C cable signals with it.
Thanks, yea, I just checked and my Sat-receiver is only DVB-S, as are the majority of Sat-receivers Do you know any combo CVB-S and DVB-C receivers? I searched a little, but only found maybe one or two and prices were high (around 600 CHF)

...and so, just to clarify, if I buy any DVB-C box with a CA slot (ex. this one?), I can just plug in the Cablecom DigiCard and I can use that as a CableCom tuner? If yes, then that's great, as it gives more freedom to the customer (ie: me), plus I don't have to pay monthly rental fees. I'd like to have a combo DVB-S and DVB-C in one box, but could do 2 boxes if really necessary.

I currently have the DigiCard pluged in the CA slot of my TV, and it works OK (switching channels is a little slow), but I would really like to record, which I can't currently do.
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Old 08.12.2011, 13:56
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Re: UPC Cablecom - NEW HD Box Launching in Nov '11

Can a mod please change the title of this thread, as there is clearly going to be no new cablecom box this year at all.
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Thanks, yea, I just checked and my Sat-receiver is only DVB-S, as are the majority of Sat-receivers Do you know any combo CVB-S and DVB-C receivers? I searched a little, but only found maybe one or two and prices were high (around 600 CHF)
This fulfils most of your wishes:

Samsung BD-C8500/EDC
HD-Recorder with Blu-ray Player, DVB-C/T-HD-Tuner and 500 GB harddrive
and with a CI+ slot to take a upc cablecom DigiCard

So there you have a new recorder / BluRay player / cablecom receiver device all in one.

Isn't this what everyone has always been wanting?
Free market choice of your own cablecom settop box?

Around 600 CHF on toppreise.ch


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...and so, just to clarify, if I buy any DVB-C box with a CA slot (ex. this one?), I can just plug in the Cablecom DigiCard and I can use that as a CableCom tuner? If yes, then that's great, as it gives more freedom to the customer (ie: me), plus I don't have to pay monthly rental fees.
Yes, correct. Except what is the benefit of the CI+ DVB-C receiver box you found, compared to the built-in DVB-C receiver with CI+ slot in your TV?

Recipe for watching cablecom digital TV on a non-cablecom box:
1. Take a upc cablecom CI+ DigiCard
2. Take any DVB-C receiver with a CI+ slot (TV, settop box, recorder - there are many on the market)
3. Plug DigiCard into the DVB-C receiver
4. Connect power and cable antenna
5. Switch on and enjoy!
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Re: UPC Cablecom - NEW HD Box Launching in Nov '11

Any Cablecom CI+ users tried using the card with a Humax Foxsat HDR (Freesat box)?

The box has a CI module, but I don't know if the fact that the Cablecom card is CI+ would make a difference. I also can't find anything in the user manual about whether this box could record from the card...

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The box has a CI module, but I don't know if the fact that the Cablecom card is CI+ would make a difference. I also can't find anything in the user manual about whether this box could record from the card...
CI is the older standard, and a CI slot does not support CI+

So no, you cannot use the new CI+ cards in the old CI slots. They will plug in, but an error message appears and you cannot use the card.

PS: the card has nothing to do with recording, you do not "record from the card".

The card's sole job is to decrypt the current channel.
Recording is done by the settop box.
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Re: UPC Cablecom - NEW HD Box Launching in Nov '11

They need to release this like....now! The current Cisco box is so crappy!

http://www.upc-cablecom.ch/en/b2c/to...ecthorizon.htm
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