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Old 29.10.2007, 16:08
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Paying for Cable TV Twice?!!

Afternoon!

I wonder if anyone can help? We have received our half yearly Nebenkostenabrechnung from our Landlords and they have very kindly charged us chf167.60 for Cable TV. We do however, pay a monthly bill to Cablecom for digital TV. Is this correct? Just seems like we are paying twice!

Many thanks really appreciate it!

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Well, those are two separate products, so if you use both, you will be billed for both.

The landlord has no obligation to not bill you for cable unless you explicitly request him to; at that point the cable output will be sealed shut and billing discontinued.
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Old 29.10.2007, 17:01
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Well, those are two separate products, so if you use both, you will be billed for both.

The landlord has no obligation to not bill you for cable unless you explicitly request him to; at that point the cable output will be sealed shut and billing discontinued.
But with the cable socket sealed, there will be no digital TV. I understood that you paid for digital on top of the analogue/base price...
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But with the cable socket sealed, there will be no digital TV. I understood that you paid for digital on top of the analogue/base price...
Yep - however unless I am mistaken Cablecom uses a different wall socket to the one used by the old skool analog cable.
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Old 29.10.2007, 17:05
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But with the cable socket sealed, there will be no digital TV. I understood that you paid for digital on top of the analogue/base price...
But digital TV is piped over the airwaves, so comes through the normal aerial socket, the digital TV box merely decodes the signal. My cable socket is only used for the modem.

At least that what happens in my flat.
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Old 29.10.2007, 23:57
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But digital TV is piped over the airwaves, so comes through the normal aerial socket, the digital TV box merely decodes the signal. My cable socket is only used for the modem.

At least that what happens in my flat.
Now I'm even more confused! "Piped of the airwaves"? Free to air digital TV here has only 4 Swiss channels. Digital cable comes throughthe same cable as anaolgue. That "aerial socket" is the cable socket...
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Now I'm even more confused! "Piped of the airwaves"? Free to air digital TV here has only 4 Swiss channels. Digital cable comes throughthe same cable as anaolgue. That "aerial socket" is the cable socket...
You're right. The OP was talking about Cablecom's digital tv which doesn't come through the old skool coax socket. Or at least it wasn't when I lived in Thalwil
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You're right. The OP was talking about Cablecom's digital tv which doesn't come through the old skool coax socket. Or at least it wasn't when I lived in Thalwil
What does it come through then? Through the air?
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What does it come through then? Through the air?
Well I would have thought Cablecom's own internet cable? Same as Bluewin TV?
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You're right. The OP was talking about Cablecom's digital tv which doesn't come through the old skool coax socket. Or at least it wasn't when I lived in Thalwil
Before I had Cablecom, my TV picked up the analogue channels through same socket (the old coax style, or aerial socket). My cablecom box plugged into the very same socket.

So my understanding is, that there is a digital signal broadcast alongside the analogue, but it is encrypted, the cablecom box just decodes the signal. That's why you don't pick up many free to air channels.

Course, that is what it's like here in Luzern.
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Before I had Cablecom, my TV picked up the analogue channels through same socket (the old coax style, or aerial socket). My cablecom box plugged into the very same socket.

So my understanding is, that there is a digital signal broadcast alongside the analogue, but it is encrypted, the cablecom box just decodes the signal. That's why you don't pick up many free to air channels.
I'm presently on analogue TV and internet via Cablecom. When I moved in, the socket on the wall was a standard twin TV/Radio aerial socket. When I ordered Cablecom internet, as part of the inspection they carried out, this socket was replaced with the newer style one which has a third connector for the "cable modem".

I watched 'em do it, and noted that there is only one coax wire feeding the socket, so no rewiring back to wherever the cable enters the house/building should be required (unless it's too old or faulty and requires replacing, of course).

TV and radio connect as before, and don't go through the modem.

So yes, the analogue TV/radio and digital (internet) signals all come down the same line. You just need the appropriate box of tricks (internet and/or TV) to decode the digital parts.
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Re: Paying for Cable TV Twice?!!

Mee too, this is apparently in many buildings now, and goes toward maintaining the infrastructure of the cable...
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