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Which tablet is the best?

As I've been out of the techie market for a couple years I am interested in hearing people's opinions (good and bad) on the available tablets on the market now. Family abroad has taken pity on us living in the most expensive city in the world (love those polls!) and provided the funds for whatever I want, but I have no idea what I want

I will only need wifi and not a data plan as I am rarely in places without wifi and will use it the most when I travel so it doesn't really make sense so looking for the best tablet with access to apps for kids, email, some work docs to have on hand when I travel, and really just a lot of fun! I plan on using it mostly for downloading movies/tv shows and general surfing fun with some actual work usage when I am on the road so I don't have to lug my 3kg computer with me everywhere!

What do you have and what are the best and worst features? And how much storage space do you really use?
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Re: Which tablet is the best?

If you've already got Apple kit then the iPad would be the way to go. If, however, you're windows then the world is your oyster, but I have been assured by others that anything with Samsung, or Nexus, emblazoned on it is an exceptional purchase.

If you're not using the tablet for media storage then go for a 16GB model - I have an iPad 16GB which is full with crap apps that I never use. If on the other hand you want movies and music on the tablet then go for at least 32GB. Also certain android tablets allow you to expand the memory via mini/micro/whatever SD cards. iPad doesn't.

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Re: Which tablet is the best?

We have 2 Lenovo tablet 7 inch. Very cheap (160 & 190 Euro each) and with expansion slots for SD cards.

Very happy as the cheap price means the kids use it, we use it and we do not worry too much, we will upgrade when we feel like it.

One is Wireless only and one with 3G.

They have Android which we had to get adjusted to but all is good now.

So we are happy
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Old 11.12.2012, 20:21
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Re: Which tablet is the best?

My main argument to use 32GB iPhone or iPad is their storage capacity which for lazy photo and video keepers like myself, it will make more sense. Your phone is your pocket camera mate. You won't have to delete or back them up regularly. Once you start installing number of important frequently used apps eg. SBB or LinkedIn or those crappy ones used very seldom e.g. Wimbledon you will start running out of space quickly. And importantly, once on this glamorous long weekend you drive 750km to your nearest destination e.g. Monte Carlo you would want to listen to 500+ songs stored on your device. In the evening you want to watch your favorite movie or podcast. Things like that matter and consume memory.

I stick to Apple but without being overtly biased still believe there is plenty of competitive products from Samsung Galaxy and others on the market. Love watching movies and reading news on iPad babe!!
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Re: Which tablet is the best?

In short, if you have an investment in Apps with one of the major operating systems then go that way. Fine tune with size.

My main tablet is a Galaxy Tab 8.9 wifi with 16Gb. Size mattered for me and it works.

I have a short drop cable from dx.com which allows me to attach a 64Gb USB stick to it.

Make sure it works with Skype video - from your description, that might be important.
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Re: Which tablet is the best?

I would recommend you NEXUS 7 32GB WIFI.

http://www.google.com/nexus/7/

One of the best hardware configurations and costs the half of an ipad.
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Re: Which tablet is the best?

In terms of durability, apps and available gadgets, nothing beats the Ipad IMO.
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I would recommend you NEXUS 7 32GB WIFI.

http://www.google.com/nexus/7/

One of the best hardware configurations and costs the half of an ipad.
we have both the Nexus 7 32 Gb and the iPad.
Don't know which is the best. Sometimes I prefer the small one, sometimes the big one.

If you would go for one, then go for the cheapest. Tablet development goes so fast that you want to upgrade regularly without wasting too much money.

Build quality of the iPad is indeed good but Nexus is too.
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we have both the Nexus 7 32 Gb and the iPad.
Don't know which is the best. Sometimes I prefer the small one, sometimes the big one.

If you would go for one, then go for the cheapest. Tablet development goes so fast that you want to upgrade regularly without wasting too much money.

Build quality of the iPad is indeed good but Nexus is too.
Exactly. And if you change the ipad with the nexus in term of hardware (microprocessor, memory, etc) the nexus is better for much less money. It's incredible what google is doing. Apple will have to low the prices or android will beat it soon...
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Old 11.12.2012, 22:08
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Exactly. And if you change the ipad with the nexus in term of hardware (microprocessor, memory, etc) the nexus is better for much less money. It's incredible what google is doing. Apple will have to low the prices or android will beat it soon...
Great thread; I am thimking of the next tablet purchase!

What is the next best Nexus step??
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Old 11.12.2012, 22:09
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Re: Which tablet is the best?

Android, too complex for its own good

Summary: Android has grown as a platform in a relatively short time. Unfortunately my experience with the Nexus 7 leads me to believe the platform has grown too complex for Google to maintain it properly.

By James Kendrick for Mobile News | December 10, 2012 -- 12:02 GMT



Android started as an immature mobile platform designed to handle smartphones. Google has added functionality to Android so it now handles tablets in addition to handling smartphones much better than that first version. Unfortunately, the growth of the platform has magnified a horrible update problem to the point that every update seems to break as much as it improves.
Take the Nexus 7, arguably the best tablet currently available for the price. When first introduced just a short while ago, Google made a big deal about how the Jelly Bean version of Android finally ran as smoothly as the competition.
Scrolling is herky-jerky in all apps and for general system operation. The biggest improvement in Android since its inception has been broken by Google.
I found those claims to be accurate when my Nexus 7 arrived, as the Project Butter initiative undertaken by the Android team at Google brought smooth operation to the platform at long last. Typical tablet operations such as scrolling was clearly better on the Nexus 7 than on any other Android tablet.
That only lasted a few months as Google pushed an update to the Nexus 7 that broke the smooth operation affecting all aspects of the tablet's performance. Scrolling is herky-jerky in all apps and for general system operation. The biggest improvement in Android since its inception has been broken by Google.
It was so bad that Google had to push out a quick update designed to fix the other update. Some Nexus 7 owners are happy to get smooth operation back but I'm not one of them. My Nexus 7 is still exhibiting laggy operation across the board. I'm not alone as I've heard from quite a few others in the same situation.
Some Nexus 7 owners have inherited other problems with the last update on top of the performance issues. I've heard from a number of owners who are experiencing multiple system reboots daily since the last Nexus 7 update.
Hopefully Google will push out another Nexus 7 update to fix the update that didn't fix the other update. That's a pretty sad statement when you think about it.
If Google can't get Android updates right what chance do its partners have to get them right for their own devices? We often hear horror stories about delays of updates or updates that break things as happened on the Nexus 7. It's clear that Android is incredibly difficult to maintain properly.
Colleague Adrian Kingsley-Hughes pointed out that Android is too hard for users. I'm not sure that is the case but I'm beginning to think that Android is too complex for Google to maintain properly. It's to the point that installing an Android update is a crap shoot that may break functionality or adversely affect performance.
The complexity of Android is evident when you look at Google's Chrome OS. That platform is updated regularly with updates that actually improve things without creating problems.
Android enthusiasts will no doubt respond that Chrome OS is just a superset of a browser and shouldn't be compared. That's true to a point but the fact is I do everything on my Chromebook that I do on my Nexus 7. I can even run widgets and web pages as apps in their own windows, functionally similar to Android. Of course in Chrome OS I can run those as resized windows with multiple apps onscreen at once, unlike Android.
I've complained about the horrible Android update situation in the past, but I now believe it's worse than I thought. The Nexus 7 situation leads me to believe that Android is now so complex that Google can't maintain it properly.
Google needs to get control over the Android update situation. Updates should be easier for Google and partners to push out, and they should make things better rather than break things. If the problem doing so is due to Android being too complex, maybe it's time to make it easier to maintain like Chrome OS.
If Google does merge Android and Chrome OS as believed I hope it makes the latter the core of the new OS. Replacing Chrome OS with the impossible to maintain Android would be a mistake.

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Android, too complex for its own good

Summary: Android has grown as a platform in a relatively short time. Unfortunately my experience with the Nexus 7 leads me to believe the platform has grown too complex for Google to maintain it properly.

By James Kendrick for Mobile News | December 10, 2012 -- 12:02 GMT



Android started as an immature mobile platform designed to handle smartphones. Google has added functionality to Android so it now handles tablets in addition to handling smartphones much better than that first version. Unfortunately, the growth of the platform has magnified a horrible update problem to the point that every update seems to break as much as it improves.
Take the Nexus 7, arguably the best tablet currently available for the price. When first introduced just a short while ago, Google made a big deal about how the Jelly Bean version of Android finally ran as smoothly as the competition.
Scrolling is herky-jerky in all apps and for general system operation. The biggest improvement in Android since its inception has been broken by Google.
I found those claims to be accurate when my Nexus 7 arrived, as the Project Butter initiative undertaken by the Android team at Google brought smooth operation to the platform at long last. Typical tablet operations such as scrolling was clearly better on the Nexus 7 than on any other Android tablet.
That only lasted a few months as Google pushed an update to the Nexus 7 that broke the smooth operation affecting all aspects of the tablet's performance. Scrolling is herky-jerky in all apps and for general system operation. The biggest improvement in Android since its inception has been broken by Google.
It was so bad that Google had to push out a quick update designed to fix the other update. Some Nexus 7 owners are happy to get smooth operation back but I'm not one of them. My Nexus 7 is still exhibiting laggy operation across the board. I'm not alone as I've heard from quite a few others in the same situation.
Some Nexus 7 owners have inherited other problems with the last update on top of the performance issues. I've heard from a number of owners who are experiencing multiple system reboots daily since the last Nexus 7 update.
Hopefully Google will push out another Nexus 7 update to fix the update that didn't fix the other update. That's a pretty sad statement when you think about it.
If Google can't get Android updates right what chance do its partners have to get them right for their own devices? We often hear horror stories about delays of updates or updates that break things as happened on the Nexus 7. It's clear that Android is incredibly difficult to maintain properly.
Colleague Adrian Kingsley-Hughes pointed out that Android is too hard for users. I'm not sure that is the case but I'm beginning to think that Android is too complex for Google to maintain properly. It's to the point that installing an Android update is a crap shoot that may break functionality or adversely affect performance.
The complexity of Android is evident when you look at Google's Chrome OS. That platform is updated regularly with updates that actually improve things without creating problems.
Android enthusiasts will no doubt respond that Chrome OS is just a superset of a browser and shouldn't be compared. That's true to a point but the fact is I do everything on my Chromebook that I do on my Nexus 7. I can even run widgets and web pages as apps in their own windows, functionally similar to Android. Of course in Chrome OS I can run those as resized windows with multiple apps onscreen at once, unlike Android.
I've complained about the horrible Android update situation in the past, but I now believe it's worse than I thought. The Nexus 7 situation leads me to believe that Android is now so complex that Google can't maintain it properly.
Google needs to get control over the Android update situation. Updates should be easier for Google and partners to push out, and they should make things better rather than break things. If the problem doing so is due to Android being too complex, maybe it's time to make it easier to maintain like Chrome OS.
If Google does merge Android and Chrome OS as believed I hope it makes the latter the core of the new OS. Replacing Chrome OS with the impossible to maintain Android would be a mistake.

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Re: Which tablet is the best?

"Best" tablet is really subjective, but I'd recommend a Nexus 7. It's just very good value.

Putting content on it is also very easy, just connect to a PC and copy stuff.

My personal day-to-day tablet is a Blackberry Playbook and I use about 10Gb of its 32.

We also have an iPad but we don't use it much - it's too big, and syncing content to it seems too much hassle, especially if using more than one computer.
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Re: Which tablet is the best?

Depends on what you want to do with it. For reading books, the Nexus 7 is hard to beat.

For content consumption, at least in Switzerland, you'll have to go with an iPad, as Google doesn't sell any of their movies / books / magazines in Switzerland.

In terms of getting work done, it doesn't matter which one you choose - they all suck (and that includes the new Windows 8 devices) and can't replace a laptop.

The iPad's downside is its hefty price-tag and its above average weight - the latter can definitely be an issue and it's bothered me ever since they introduced the iPad 3 with its weight gain.

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Is the Amazon Fire /Fire HD a valid alternative for content consumption ?
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Not really, amazon isn't present here, either
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Re: Which tablet is the best?

for once i agree with dawiz, the weight of the newest ipad is something of a letdown... thats why i still prefer my ipad 2.

ipad mini?
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Re: Which tablet is the best?

thanks everyone, and I hope more responses keep coming in - I feel like I'm catching up on lost time

the mention of content accessibility has me wondering about our lovely Swiss boundaries and from my experience iTunes sucks as well as anything else, so I would need to get a North American itunes account anyway. I don't think that would impact which tablet I use as itunes can be used on any...right? or is google blocking it on their tablets As movies/tv shows will be a regular item to download, need to make sure that is a big aspect to consider...

I will definitely have to do the weight comparison but as any of them will be a vast improvement on my laptop, initially I really don't think it would matter, but long term it definitely could.
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Not really, amazon isn't present here, either
Does anything have a presence in Switzerland? iTunes doesn't have a great selection of movies in english and no tv shows but is there something else out there that has snuck by the IP borders?
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For content consumption, at least in Switzerland, you'll have to go with an iPad, as Google doesn't sell any of their movies / books / magazines in Switzerland.

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I would disagree to some extent with this. With the ipad it is clearly the easiest to consume content but for music and books there are tons of alternatives to itunes. Films and series I get over torrents so I don't know of official alternatives but I presume at least the films you buy are able to be transferred to a third device like with music bought on itunes. I'm not interested in magazines but is it not possible to buy the products offered on itunes directly from the publishers?

Personally I've got the Nexus 7 and I'm very happy with it
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