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Satellite TV - a novice needs help :)

Okay, so this is the deal. I'll be a newbie in Switzerland and will be moving into my new place next week. My landlord told me that the complex has free satellite channels - like hundreds of them - which is probably pretty normal with a dish.

Since I know almost NOTHING (see which word I emphasized there) about satellite, I am not sure what to expect because I need to sort out an internet contract with a company who would also be able to provide cable tv - probably Cablecom. A package deal would be cheaper if cable is required.

So I asked my new landlord if the satellite is registered with a specific company and whether I can find out BEFORE I order my internet service which channels are available, but he did not answer the question after 3 tries. So either he did not understand it or it is a stupid question.

SO, my question to you, is there an internet site to see what channels are available? Is satellite a pain in the arse anyway if used alone? My parents used to have satellite and one would constantly have to adjust the dish if a programme was on other 'channel'. This can probably be a bit tiresome if done all the time?

OR would you recommend that I just get cable anyway?

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Re: Satellite TV - a novice needs help :)

Without knowing what the dish is pointing at, it's impossible to give a definative answer.

You need the landlord to help before we can.

(Cablecom has most of the FTA channels - those available on Freesat)
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Without knowing what the dish is pointing at, it's impossible to give a definative answer.

You need the landlord to help before we can.
I understand. I will try one more time and report back if I get a solid answer.
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Re: Satellite TV - a novice needs help :)

I'm not sure if something is getting lost in translation or not.

We have cable running to our apartment block. Without taking out any subscription, just by plugging into the wall, I have access to all the following channels:

http://www.intergga-ag.ch/wp-content...11.06.2013.pdf

I suspect that this might be the sort of arrangement that your landlord is (incorrectly) describing as satellite. You can also purchase additional channel packages.

Alternatively, if there is a satellite dish, you need to find out which satellite it is pointed at. You can then Google which channels are available free-to-air on that satellite.
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I'm not sure if something is getting lost in translation or not.

We have cable running to our apartment block. Without taking out any subscription, just by plugging into the wall, I have access to all the following channels:

http://www.intergga-ag.ch/wp-content...11.06.2013.pdf

I suspect that this might be the sort of arrangement that your landlord is (incorrectly) describing as satellite. You can also purchase additional channel packages.

Alternatively, if there is a satellite dish, you need to find out which satellite it is pointed at. You can then Google which channels are available free-to-air on that satellite.
Thanks for that. He has told me there is a satellite dish and he will point it at (something) before I arrive. So when I asked him what 'something' was, he did not answer me. But he jumps all over the place when I speak to him.

So in theory, could satellite offer basic channels like the ones you listed? Or is it more quirky stuff - like Albanian tv?
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Re: Satellite TV - a novice needs help :)

It all depends on what the satellite is pointing at. If the satellite is just for your apartment and you've got any say in the matter, you can get it pointed at Astra 2B, which will give you the best choice of English-language viewing. Here's what you can get off Astra 2B without a subscription:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...s_at_28%C2%B0E

If it's a shared dish, you're probably pointed at one of the European dishes. You can get channel listings for the other dishes here:

http://en.kingofsat.net/
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Re: Satellite TV - a novice needs help :)

Do you know if it is an individual dish, just for your appartment, or is it plumbed to everyone?

If it's just yours, and he's offering to point it wherever you want it then you can take a look somewhere like http://www.tracksat.com/regions.asp?region=EUROPE and take a look.

If you're interested in the UK Freeview and Sky Chennels then you'll want to poit at 28.2° East.
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We have cable running to our apartment block. Without taking out any subscription, just by plugging into the wall, I have access to all the following channels:
Actually you (OK your Landlord) has a subscription for this. You pay for it in your nebenkosten.
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Do you know if it is an individual dish, just for your appartment, or is it plumbed to everyone?

If it's just yours, and he's offering to point it wherever you want it then you can take a look somewhere like http://www.tracksat.com/regions.asp?region=EUROPE and take a look.

If you're interested in the UK Freeview and Sky Chennels then you'll want to poit at 28.2° East.
This is all pretty fascinating. I thought it was everyone but then why would he say that he would point it to wherever. Hmmm...I might not know until I get there. If I can change it, I hope there are instructions in how to do so.
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If I can change it, I hope there are instructions in how to do so.
http://www.astra2.org/dish.html
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Re: Satellite TV - a novice needs help :)

You have two challenges here.

1. It's most likely pointing at Hotbird or Astra 1 - so Sky UK is out of the question
2. It might need a DiSEqC-capable box. Sky boxes from the UK are not capable.

But in the end, here's my advice.

1. Get a sub to Overplay.net SmartDNS
2. Get Filmon for your device
3. Relax
4. Come over and watch TV via the Internet
5. Relax
6. Subscribe to what you want when you're here
7. Torrents are your friend and not illegal
8. Relax.....did I mention that?
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It all depends on what the satellite is pointing at. If the satellite is just for your apartment and you've got any say in the matter, you can get it pointed at Astra 2B, which will give you the best choice of English-language viewing. Here's what you can get off Astra 2B without a subscription:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...s_at_28%C2%B0E

If it's a shared dish, you're probably pointed at one of the European dishes. You can get channel listings for the other dishes here:

http://en.kingofsat.net/
I found out it is a shared one. He has not responded to where it is pointing at yet. Sigh.
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You have two challenges here.

1. It's most likely pointing at Hotbird or Astra 1 - so Sky UK is out of the question
2. It might need a DiSEqC-capable box. Sky boxes from the UK are not capable.

But in the end, here's my advice.

1. Get a sub to Overplay.net SmartDNS
2. Get Filmon for your device
3. Relax
4. Come over and watch TV via the Internet
5. Relax
6. Subscribe to what you want when you're here
7. Torrents are your friend and not illegal
8. Relax.....did I mention that?
This is all quite fascinating. So, if it is pointing at Astra1 or Hotbird does one get channels like BBC 1,2, 3, 4; ITV1, etc, Channel 4 and Film4? Those are the ones I care about at the moment (the basics). I can let focus on your other suggestion. Hee hee hee
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Re: Satellite TV - a novice needs help :)

If it's pointing at Hotbird, you'll get a handful of English channels but not a great selection:

http://www.bb24.biz/index.php/televi...hotbird-13east

Astra 1 has even fewer English choices:

http://www.aurora.se/astra_satellite_channels.htm
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Re: Satellite TV - a novice needs help :)

Given that you appear to be moving to Lugano, I'd expect the dish is pointing at Hotbird given there is more Italian content coming down from there. It might be that there are two feeds from the dish for Astra 1 and Hotbird to be nicer to the German-speakers.

But I'd say the best English channel you'll get is Sky News. Plan for BBC, ITV and so on to not be coming down from this setup.

Plus you'll also have get a box that can deal with how the signal is being delivered - separating and switching polarity. So a Sky or Freesat box won't cut the mustard.

OverPlay and Filmon will plug a gap for a week or two. Cablecom and Swisscom TV will both be options for you - Swisscom TV has more English channels in HD right now but Cablecom speeds for Internet are far beyond what Swisscom can deliver over copper.
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If it's pointing at Hotbird, you'll get a handful of English channels but not a great selection:

http://www.bb24.biz/index.php/televi...hotbird-13east

Astra 1 has even fewer English choices:

http://www.aurora.se/astra_satellite_channels.htm
Wow, that is pretty rubbish, though you never know when Kurdistan TV might come in handy. Do Arabs own these satellite companies? I have never seen so many Arab channels (not to mention Arab Girls XXX - I mean really)
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Okay, so this is the deal. I'll be a newbie in Switzerland and will be moving into my new place next week. My landlord told me that the complex has free satellite channels - like hundreds of them - which is probably pretty normal with a dish.

Since I know almost NOTHING (see which word I emphasized there) about satellite, I am not sure what to expect because I need to sort out an internet contract with a company who would also be able to provide cable tv - probably Cablecom. A package deal would be cheaper if cable is required.

So I asked my new landlord if the satellite is registered with a specific company and whether I can find out BEFORE I order my internet service which channels are available, but he did not answer the question after 3 tries. So either he did not understand it or it is a stupid question.

SO, my question to you, is there an internet site to see what channels are available? Is satellite a pain in the arse anyway if used alone? My parents used to have satellite and one would constantly have to adjust the dish if a programme was on other 'channel'. This can probably be a bit tiresome if done all the time?

OR would you recommend that I just get cable anyway?

Cheers!
I suspect you and your landlord know almost nothing about satellite TV!

It is possible he has a dish on the roof for his block. If so this will be for German-language stations and telling you about other satellites is pointless. But I suspect he is referring to the far more common cable TV, which does indeed have many satellite channels, including the BBC & ITV.

However, it seems unlikely that you will get to the truth of it all until you arrive here...
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Given that you appear to be moving to Lugano, I'd expect the dish is pointing at Hotbird given there is more Italian content coming down from there. It might be that there are two feeds from the dish for Astra 1 and Hotbird to be nicer to the German-speakers.

But I'd say the best English channel you'll get is Sky News. Plan for BBC, ITV and so on to not be coming down from this setup.

Plus you'll also have get a box that can deal with how the signal is being delivered - separating and switching polarity. So a Sky or Freesat box won't cut the mustard.

OverPlay and Filmon will plug a gap for a week or two. Cablecom and Swisscom TV will both be options for you - Swisscom TV has more English channels in HD right now but Cablecom speeds for Internet are far beyond what Swisscom can deliver over copper.
SO helpful. Thank you. I think I will get a subscription and then explore torrent downloads for other things. Thanks for being more helpful than my landlord (who is busy, I know).
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You have two challenges here.

1. It's most likely pointing at Hotbird or Astra 1 - so Sky UK is out of the question
2. It might need a DiSEqC-capable box. Sky boxes from the UK are not capable.

But in the end, here's my advice.

1. Get a sub to Overplay.net SmartDNS
2. Get Filmon for your device
3. Relax
4. Come over and watch TV via the Internet
5. Relax
6. Subscribe to what you want when you're here
7. Torrents are your friend and not illegal
8. Relax.....did I mention that?
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Re: Satellite TV - a novice needs help :)

Get Freesat and get these channels.

http://www.freesat.co.uk/channels
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