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Re: Macbook warning

I hope you will forgive me going off at a tangent, but I'm thinking of replacing my 6-year-old pc with a MacBook Pro.
I have some software I use almost daily which I know won't work on a Mac, and therefore I'd have to install Windows on the Mac, and reboot each time I use that particular software.
I'm considering switching to Mac because I'm told the graphics are usually better, but would be very grateful for some advice before I blindly jump in to something of which I know very little.
My old machine is a Sony Vaio which has worked very well, but is now obviously dying.
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I hope you will forgive me going off at a tangent, but I'm thinking of replacing my 6-year-old pc with a MacBook Pro.
I have some software I use almost daily which I know won't work on a Mac, and therefore I'd have to install Windows on the Mac, and reboot each time I use that particular software.
I'm considering switching to Mac because I'm told the graphics are usually better, but would be very grateful for some advice before I blindly jump in to something of which I know very little.
My old machine is a Sony Vaio which has worked very well, but is now obviously dying.
Thanks and I wish you all a happy New Year.


Please provide specific details in terms of what you need to use it for and which programs you use daily.


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Re: Macbook warning

Sorry. I didn't make more sense.
What I really need to know is if frequently switching from Mac to Windows is a fairly simple process, and if it would make the MacBook more liable to crash.
It's Bernina's software I use, and I know it doesn't work on Mac.
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Old 02.01.2014, 14:37
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Sorry. I didn't make more sense.
What I really need to know is if frequently switching from Mac to Windows is a fairly simple process, and if it would make the MacBook more liable to crash.
It's Bernina's software I use, and I know it doesn't work on Mac.





you don't need to boot into Windows at all. You can buy a virtual machine such as Parallels Desktop or VMware and install windows there. That's a straightforward and reliable solution - been using it for years.



As for your other question: the graphics aren't better on all Macbooks. If you want the highest resolution screen, you'll want to look at the Retina Macbook Pros. They don't come cheap, though.
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Re: Macbook warning

As my OH says 'women blunder through life'
Seems to be true for me as far as modern technology goes.
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Old 02.01.2014, 14:55
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Not sure - a tablet's a tablet and a laptop is a laptop. I don't see myself browsing the web on a laptop with a keyboard while sitting on a Sofa. I only use my computer when I need to get work done.
It seems to me that the notion of browsing the web is on its way out. In a couple of years, everything will be accessed via a browser - even Adobe CS and graphics-intensive work. And there won't be much need for local processing power or data storage, because all the heavy lifting will be done remotely and efficiently by industrial-scale banks of processor cores, instead of each user overheating his puny little quad-core i7. With decent connectivity, even the graphics processing will be done remotely.

Imagine: no more operating systems, no software, no version upgrades. With the Chromebook and the Chromebox, this is already how things work. The range of available services may not yet be attractive enough to convert users of "serious" software, but it will be one day.
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Old 02.01.2014, 15:00
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It seems to me that the notion of browsing the web is on its way out. In a couple of years, everything will be accessed via a browser - even Adobe CS and graphics-intensive work. And there won't be much need for local processing power or data storage, because all the heavy lifting will be done remotely and efficiently by industrial-scale banks of processor cores, instead of each user overheating his puny little quad-core i7. With decent connectivity, even the graphics processing will be done remotely.





Imagine: no more operating systems, no software, no version upgrades. With the Chromebook and the Chromebox, this is already how things work. The range of available services may not yet be attractive enough to convert users of "serious" software, but it will be one day.





I'm not saying this'll never happen - but (partly justified) mistrust in these service providers will likely prevent the adoption of network-based computing models for the next few years. I just pre-ordered a new Mac Pro, so I won't be using those for the next 3-4 years at least :-)
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Old 02.01.2014, 15:07
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I'm not saying this'll never happen - but (partly justified) mistrust in these service providers will likely prevent the adoption of network-based computing models for the next few years. I just pre-ordered a new Mac Pro, so I won't be using those for the next 3-4 years at least :-)
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Old 02.01.2014, 15:19
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It's OK. I'm only jealous, really.





there's no need to be - everyone should just use whatever works for him or her. Had to save money for months for that sucker
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Old 02.01.2014, 16:20
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there's no need to be - everyone should just use whatever works for him or her. Had to save money for months for that sucker
I agree. I have to admit I was tempted by the new iTrashcan Mac Pro, but the fact of the matter is that I'm already sitting on 2 iMacs neither of which I'm truly pushing to the limit. If I find myself with the need for a new mac in the near future then quite frankly an i7 Mac Mini with a sizeable SSD will do the job handsomely.
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Old 02.01.2014, 16:30
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I agree. I have to admit I was tempted by the new iTrashcan Mac Pro, but the fact of the matter is that I'm already sitting on 2 iMacs neither of which I'm truly pushing to the limit. If I find myself with the need for a new mac in the near future then quite frankly an i7 Mac Mini with a sizeable SSD will do the job handsomely.
It can be so much more than a trash can!

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1685787


I made the mistake of buying a Haswell iMac without an SSD. I got the fusion drive thingy but it's still considerably slower than my Macbook Pro. What annoys me most about it is the noise, though. It's not really loud, it's just the "in-your-face" type of noise (the fan's constantly on, the hard drive causes vibrations) that you don't want on your desktop. The Mac Pro (and also the Mac Mini, I guess) are considerable quieter. Plus I can actually put the Mac Pro in my bookshelf.

I need a somewhat powerful machine because I do a lot of image editing. The Mac Pro is clearly overkill for my purposes as well, but this'll be the same kind of long-term investment my maxed out Macbook Pro was / is. I rather spend 4k (basel model + 1tb hard drive and 16gb of RAM minus edu-rebate) on a computer that I can use 4-5 years than spending 2.5k every other year.
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Old 02.01.2014, 16:51
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Re: Macbook warning

I've been a Windows PC user since Windows came out (and before that, GEM, and DOS, and IBM-DOS and CPM ...) but bought a Macbook a month ago.

I don't have any special requirements for Windows software, although I'm currently forcing myself to try and stay close to stock apps* and so far I'm impressed. Even things which I thought would need Windows, such as the VPN software one particular company uses, is working fine.

Some things still get me, and I needed a Finder extension so the bloody thing would list folders at the top, but I love it and would fine it hard to go back to Windows. The fact I used to be a Unix admin helps, as I'm spending more time than I thought hacking/tailoring things at the OS level.

The only thing I miss, so far, is the DLNA controller built into Windows 7 (and I assume 8.1). It enabled me to "push" films to the TV rather than having to "pull" them from the TV using a DLNA server. I'm currently using Plex (which the Samsung TV supports via a free app) and even though it won't push, it's working well.

* Was Firefox, now Safari. Have some extensions (mainly Glims and Cookies) and so far so good.

* Was Thunderbird, now Apple Mail. Have a couple of extensions, and it's far from perfect, but then Thunderbird is a mess of an IMAP app anyway.

* Was Canon DPP but got Aperture for free (there's a legit trick for this - might still work) and it handles my RAW files without problem.
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I made the mistake of buying a Haswell iMac without an SSD. I got the fusion drive thingy but it's still considerably slower than my Macbook Pro.
Actually you have an SSD plus a harddisk in a fusion drive mac. It's even possible to separate them so that you have your system and apps on the SSD, and your data on the spinning rust.

My problem with the fusion drive is three fold:

First off it's short term stop gap technology attempting to bridge the gap between now and the time that SSDs become the de facto storage - according to who you speak to that time is now.

Secondly the fusion drive is something controlled by the system itself. A fusion drive is not a discrete hardware component, it's actually made up of a separate SSD and separate HD. It's effectively a software RAID 0 but with data tiering operating at the kernel level. This is bad - so far I've seen 3 fusion drives taken down by bad sticks of ram and 1 taken down by a bad video card. Anything that can create a kernel panic on a mac has the potential to wreck the fusion drive completely despite both the SSD and the HD being fully functional. When this happens it's often not possible to recover much because with files certain logical blocks can exist on the SSD and others on the HD depending on how often they are accessed. This means that even a block level scan of each drive will fail to recover data if the file happens to be split between the two drives, and the logical relationship between the drives is broken.

Thirdly if either one of the drives fail then it's game over as there is no redundancy. Certain block level recovery programs can sometimes be employed but you won't get everything back.

If you have a fusion drive then backups are absolutely critical.
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Old 02.01.2014, 18:26
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If you have a fusion drive then backups are absolutely critical.



Backups are always critical - I have a decent backup scheme in place as I can't afford to lose work.



As for the fusion drive: all excellent points and I share your opinion. I've heard of people losing all their data on iMacs because virus scanners managed to mess up the RAID array. Also, it's a bad idea to install boot camp / re-partition with the fusion drive set up.
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...Imagine: no more operating systems, no software, no version upgrades...
Imagine it? I've seen it. I was a VM systems programmer in the 90s. All apps (or "office applications" as we called them then) serviced from a central mainframe to dumb terminals.

Funny how things come full circle.
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Backups are always critical - I have a decent backup scheme in place as I can't afford to lose work.



As for the fusion drive: all excellent points and I share your opinion. I've heard of people losing all their data on iMacs because virus scanners managed to mess up the RAID array. Also, it's a bad idea to install boot camp / re-partition with the fusion drive set up.
Agreed that backups are always critical, but in the case of a fusion drive even more so.

Repartitioning a fusion drive is a bad idea. Core storage will support it but it can end up messy, and result in tears.

Basically the fusion drive is a bodge technology, a good one I'll admit, but still a bodge.
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Imagine it? I've seen it. I was a VM systems programmer in the 90s. All apps (or "office applications" as we called them then) serviced from a central mainframe to dumb terminals.

Funny how things come full circle.
I've seen it as well and was thinking the same in terms of how things have come full circle. That said I still think there will still be a demand for local "heavy lifting" in terms of image processing and transcoding

ha transcoding - I remember the first time I tried MP3 encoding back in the early 90s it took almost 10 minutes per track, depending on length. Today I transcoded an entire album from AAC to MP3 in less than 60 seconds, and my computer is a bit ancient in terms of things.

Anyway I don't believe true heavy lifting in the cloud will come to pass until we all have 10Gb connections, and even then the tech will have advanced to still give local users an advantage.
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Imagine it? I've seen it. I was a VM systems programmer in the 90s. All apps (or "office applications" as we called them then) serviced from a central mainframe to dumb terminals.

Funny how things come full circle.
Ay, them were the days. None of your fancy cloud nonsense. 16MB RAM and a pair of 12" floppy drives, all housed in a smart Bakelite cabinet - that was more than anyone could ever need...
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My son's two-year old Macbook Pro went phut last week. One of the graphics processors is knackered, apparently, and the repairs will cost more than it's worth.

I know, there's nothing particularly unusual in that. Apple is not infallible. But when I started googling Early 2011 Macbook Pro AND phut or knack* I discovered that there are many thousands of people with exactly the same problem with this particular model. Judging from the burgeoning number threads on the Apple support site on this topic, more and more of these machines are now reaching their phut-point. This one runs to 142 pages of posts from angry and disappointed Apple ex-fans.

Is Apple doing the decent thing and admitting a design/manufacturing fault? Apparently not.

So, if you are tempted to buy a second-hand early 2011 Macbook Pro on Ricardo, you might want to read a few of those threads first.
I had a problem with a macbook pro that was 1 year out of warranty and the logic board failed. It was a similar thing that a lot of people had reported an issue with my particular model. I was so angry about it as the computer wasn't that old and I think I paid around €2500 for it. I called Apple and argued with them that I understand that small things might break but when I invest so much money in something it should work for at least 5 years. After about a week of calling them everyday they eventually agreed and replaced the logic board free of charge.. Perhaps this would be too much effort for some but I wasn't just throwing something in the bin I had spent so much money on!

I got the laptop back, it was running fantastically and I dropped it a week later and smashed the screen! Oh well!

Perhaps you could give this a go?
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I got the laptop back, it was running fantastically and I dropped it a week later and smashed the screen! Oh well!
Ooops! I guess this part is optional.
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