I am getting an e-mail notification from one of the websites called Nachbarschaft24, they are claiming that I registered on their Website & as per the terms & conditions I have to pay them some 59 Euro. I never loged on their website, however they did send me a e-mail notification of registration & they do have my IP saying I loged in from this IP.

After that I realised that my Access Point was not protected & it is quite possible that somebody abused it or there can be hundered other reasons.

Now when I told them this they are telling me either to send a Police report of the matter or they are threatening me to take to court. The company is somewhere in UAE (Middle East) & every time they send me an e-mail the address of their local office is changed.

I need your kind advice for how I should deal with this matter, as being a foreigner I relly don't want any thing in my records. Please guide me how I should deal with this matter?

Kind regards,
M

Sounds like a scam to me.

Assuming you understand some German or can use Google translate, this website will answer your questions.

Behold the power of Google.

Unfortunately, Mark is no longer with us but his wisdom lives on!

http://spamnation.info/go/domain/nachbarschaft24.net has info on these scams

If you are certain that you did not register on this website, then ignore their threats.

If they are located in the UAE, I really doubt that they will issue court proceedings in Switzerland. Taking you to court will cost them more than EUR 59. In any event, there are other debt recovery avenues they have to explore before they can even take this matter to court.

I think this is a scam. They are just trying to scare and threaten you into paying them money. Who knows what might happen after you pay? They may somehow find out your bank account details, and the saga will continue. Further, paying the requested EUR 59 might amount to acknowledgement of your registration on their website, and perhaps a host of other things that you do not know about.

Just ignore them, or report the matter yourself to the police.

I am extremely sorry to hear about Mark. My Condolences.

After reading all the stuff & what I could make out is that I should not pay anything.
Please correct me if my understanding is not correct or I miss something?

I have also written an e-mail to them about all of this misunderstanding.
Best,
M

Don't waste your time and stop all e-mail communication immediately.

Your answer is proof that the mail address is valid, and makes it more likely that you will recieve more spam and scams in the future.

Ignore this. It is a scam. Don't answer them, just delete the e-mails.

See http://board.gulli.com/thread/108068...t-mir-mahnung/ for someone in the same position as you.

Thanks a lot guys, you saved lot of my breath.
Best,
M

Dear People,
Just to add my Misery as I had started to relax with this Nachbarschaft24 getting off my back, they today sent me an Invoice now from a German Company called "Deutsche Inkassostelle".

These people are asking me to send the money what as per Nachbarschaft24 is due along with their so called fine of Euro 5, which brings to a total of Euro 59. On top of that Deutsche Inkassostelle has added their own fee & made it a total of Euro 92.69.

This German company has a proper registered address (at least it looks like that) in Eschborn.

Now, I am relying on your Wisdom to guide me through this mess. What do you suggest me to do? Has anyone had any experience with it?

I highly appreciate your kind help in advance.
Best,
M

Since this comes from Germany, I found a thread on Toytown that looks like it will be of help to you:

http://www.toytowngermany.com/lofi/i...hp/t87297.html

Dear MAN,

please just ignore them, don't write to them at all.
here is a copy of an article from K-tipp, the Swiss consumer protection group, it is in German but basically says, do not have any communication with these people even if they say they bring in an "Inkasso" company.
Again, just ignore, they have no power to do anything to you.

Online | 04.10.2007
Dubiose Internetangebote: Rechnung keinesfalls bezahlen!
Philipp Schwarz
Viele Internet-Nutzer haben zurzeit Ärger mit Rechtsanwälten wie Olaf Tank und Boris
Höller. Die Anwälte fordern Geld. Diese Forderungen sind ungerechtfertigt. Der K-Tipp sagt,
wie man sich wehren kann.
Die K-Tipp-/Saldo-Rechtsberatung erhält zurzeit viele Anrufe von verunsicherten Internetbenutzern. Sie haben
vermeintlich kostenlose Angebote auf dubiosen Websites genutzt. Die Sites haben Namen wie
lebenserwartung.de, gedichte-server.com und routenplaner-server.com. Die Nutzer haben dort persönliche
Daten wie Adresse und Geburtstagsdatum bekannt gegeben.
Was sie dabei übersahen: Das Angebot ist gar nicht kostenlos. Die Anbieter versteckten die Kosten nämlich
schlitzohrig im Kleingedruckten.
Wer in eine solche Kostenfalle tappte, sollte die Rechnung auf keinen Fall bezahlen. Auch dann nicht, wenn
Inkassobüros oder die von den Anbietern eingesetzten Anwälte mit rechtlichen Schritten drohen.
Kontaktieren Sie den entsprechenden Anbieter per Mail. Sollte er noch nicht im Besitz Ihrer Adresse sein, so
geben Sie diese nicht an.
Teilen Sie dem Anbieter mit, dass Sie den Vertrag anfechten und die Rechnung nicht bezahlen. Die
Darstellung der Website sowie die Teilnahmebedingungen seien irreführend und täuschend gewesen. Im
weiteren verstosse das Internetangebot gegen das Gesetz gegen unlauteren Wettbewerb.
Weitere Zahlungsaufforderungen haben anschliessend keine Bedeutung mehr für Sie. Werfen Sie sie fort!
"Auch wer bereits einmal bezahlt hat, soll eine erneute Rechnung nicht bezahlen und zusätzlich geltend
machen, man habe die Rechnung irrtümlicherweise bezahlt", erklärt Beatrice Walder von der
K-Tipp-/Saldo-Rechtsberatung.
Ihre Empfehlung: "Lassen Sie sich grundsätzlich nicht beunruhigen und halten Sie sich an das von uns
beschriebene Vorgehen."
Und sie ergänzt: "Ein minderjähriges Kind, das sich mit falschem Geburtsdatum angemeldet hat, macht sich
nicht strafbar. Schicken Sie keine Ausweiskopie."
Bisher ist dem K-Tipp kein Fall bekannt, bei dem die Kostentrickser ihre Drohung wahr machten, rechtliche
Schritte einzuleiten.
Um solche Fälle grundsätzlich zu vermeiden, empfiehlt sich ein sorgfältiger Umgang mit den eigenen
Angaben im Internet.
Geben Sie persönliche Daten nur sehr zurückhaltend an. Und nur auf Websites, deren Betreiber Ihnen
bekannt ist.
Vorsicht vor diesen Websites:

Here is the text in English, courtesy of Babelfish

Dubious Internet offers: Calculation under any circumstances do not pay! Philipp black Many Internet users have at present annoyance with attorneys such as Olaf tank and Boris Höller. The lawyers demand money. These demands are unjustified. The K-tipp says, as one can resist. The K-hint-/Saldo-legal advice receives at present many calls of disconcerted Internet users. They used allegedly free offers on dubious Websites. The Sites has names how lebenserwartung.de, gedichte-server.com and routenplaner-server.com. The users announced there personal data such as address and birthday date. Which they surveyed thereby: The offer is not free at all. The offerers hid the costs cheekily in the small print. Who groped in such case of cost, the calculation should pay in no case. Also not if debt collecting agencies or the lawyers used by the offerers threaten with legal steps. Contact the appropriate offerer by mail. If it should not be yet in the possession of your address, then you do not indicate these. Communicate to the offerer that you contest the contract and do not pay the calculation. Those Representation of the website as well as the conditions of participation were misleading and deceptive. In the further offence the Internet offer against the law against mean competition. Further summons to pay have afterwards no more meaning for you. Throw it away! " Also who paid already once, a renewed calculation is not to pay and to make additionally valid, one has the calculation erroneous-proves bezahlt" , Beatrice Walder explains of that K-hint-/Saldo-legal advice. Their recommendation: " Do not let in principle be worried and held you itself by the Vorgehen." described by us; And it supplements: " A child under age, who registered with wrong date of birth, does not make itself punishable. Do not send Ausweiskopie." So far the K-hint no case is well-known, with which the Kostentrickser made its threat true, legal steps to introduce. In order to avoid such cases in principle, careful handling the own data in the Internet is recommended. Indicate personal data only very reservedly. And only on Websites, whose operator admits to you is. Caution before this Websites:

www.1sms.at
www.88sms.ch
www.88sms.de
www.basteln-heute.com
www.berufs-wahl.de
www.berufe-testen.de
www.check-deinen-sex.com
www.cocktails-heute.com
www.condome.tv
www.dein-geistiges-alter.de
www.drogen-heute.com
www.download-sofort.com
www.every-game.com
www.fabrikverkauf-heute.com
www.fabrik-einkauf.com
www.fahrschulquiz.com
www.firstload.de
www.fuehrerscheincheck.com
www.games-heute.com
www.geburtstags-infos.de
www.gedichte-heute.com
www.gedichte-server.com
www.genealogie.de
www.gewinnalarm.com
www.grafik-archiv.com
www.gehaltsrechner-heute.com
www.grusskarten-heute.com
www.grusskarten-versand.com
www.der.fuehrerscheincheck.com
www.hausaufgaben-heute.com
www.ichwillpornos.com
www.iqchampion.com
www.kochrezepte-server.com
www.kochrezepte-datenbank.net
www.kunst-heute.com
www.lebenscheck.com
www.lebensprognose.com
www.lebenstest.de
www.lehrstellen-heute.com
www.lexikon-heute.com
www.mega-downloads.net
www.movie-tester.com
www.nachbarschaft24.net
www.namen-ahnen.de
www.namensinfo.de
www.namen-und-ahnen.de
www.p2p-heute.com
www.p2p-paradies.com
www.pflanzen-heute.com
www.play4win.ch
www.rauchen-heute.com
www.rezepte-heute.com
www.routenplaner-online.de
www.routenplaner-einfach-planen.de
www.routenplaner-server.com
www.routenplanung-heute.com
www.shortwin.de
www.smsfree100.de
www.sms-heute.com
www.songtexte-heute.com
www.songtexte-paradies.de
www.sternzeichen-heute.com
www.steuer-heute.com
www.suchen-heute.com
www.sudoku-welt.com
www.tattoo-guru.com
www.tattoo-heute.com
www.tattoo-paradies.de
www.tiere-infos.de
www.tiere-heute.com
www.tierheime-heute.com
www.umfragenscout.com
www.vorlagen-archiv.com
www.vorlagen-land.de
www.vornamen-heute.com
www.witze-heute.com
www.wohnung-heute.com

It's not the best translation I know and I'm being a bit lazy by not translating it properly for you but I think it gives you the idea. These web addresses are already well known for being shysters, do not worry, you have no black mark against your name, only they do.

Ros

P.S. They do sound very very convincing, I was almost taken in myself with a competition I supposedly won, truly, this is a well known trick, be good to yourself and don't respond and know you did the right thing, they are very persistant but you have done nothing wrong. Go well and forget them.

Further to Delphinium Blue's answer - I guess you would only have cause for any worry if they have your postal address and sent demands by registered post.

Hey Ros,

Thanks a lot for helping me out of this S**t, I really appreciate your kind help.
You saved my evening & a lot of misery.
Kind regards,
m

It's a pain with all these fraudsters out there... Unless I'm sure of the site, I wouldn't submit my usual e-mail address - it's real easy to set up a hotmail address to use for these occations and subsequently discard when the spam starts arriving.

Also, for some reason, I'm never quite honest about age and address when registering. Even here on the trustworthy English Forum, I've supplied a sligthly photoshopped picture of myself in order to remain anonymous (in fact, my natural hair colour is blond, which sort of alters the impression somewhat).