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Old 01.07.2015, 11:32
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In 2017 No More Roaming Charges in EU

Since Switzerland isn't in the EU, I guess it's up to Swiss operators to participate or not?

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Almost two years after the European Commission put forward its proposal for a telecoms single market, an agreement was found with the European Parliament and the Council. The compromise was reached earlier today following final negotiations between the three institutions (so-called 'trilogue' meetings). It foresees:
  • The end of roaming charges in June 2017. When travelling in the EU, mobile phone users will pay the same price as at home, with no extra charges.
  • Strong net neutrality rules protecting the right of every European to access Internet content, without discrimination.
These measures will be completed by an ambitious overhaul of EU telecoms rules in 2016. This reform will include a more effective EU-level spectrum coordination. Creating the right conditions for digital networks and services to flourish is a key objective of the Commission's plan for a Digital Single Market.
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Old 01.07.2015, 11:41
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Re: In 2017 No More Roaming Charges in EU

I can't see any reason why they would participate, this ruling makes no difference to the mobile setup in Switzerland.

Competition between the operators is the only thing likely to have an effect, which is working but very slowly.

Possibly the EU operators will reduce their general connection fees, giving some room for further reduction. Or possibly they'll try to get back some profits from non-EU roamers. It's impossible to know yet.
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Since Switzerland isn't in the EU, I guess it's up to Swiss operators to participate or not? http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release....htm?locale=en
The roaming charges haven't been entirely removed, but a maximum surcharge of a few per cent will be introduced in April 2016, making the extra charges very small. It will be interesting to see if Swiss operators will continue to rob us.

Why don't we all buy French or German SIM cards and pay the low extra roaming charges?

Already from April 2016, roaming will become even cheaper: operators will only be able to charge a small additional amount to domestic prices up to €0.05 per minute of call made, €0.02 per SMS sent, and €0.05 per MB of data (excl. VAT). This maximum roaming charge is about 75% cheaper than current roaming caps for calls made and data.
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Re: In 2017 No More Roaming Charges in EU

if will get interesting when carrying a french or other member eu sim card on PAYG is cheaper then a local swiss card. Im sure some carriers like lycamobile will come out with some decent tarriffs. Wait and see.
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Re: In 2017 No More Roaming Charges in EU

some German operators already have plans according to (parts of) this ruling.

I use base.de. At €28/month I have
  • 1GB which can be used throughout all of the the EU (they currently have a 2GB offer for the same price)
  • (EU reads EU + CH + Liechtenstein + Iceland + Norway + appendices such as Gibraltar, Isle of Man etc...)
  • All calls to Germany are included (doesn't matter from where)
  • Calls to all other EU destinations are 9c/minute (doesn't matter from where)
  • base.de also provide a German fixed line number, which rings on the mobile. Receiving calls on this fixed line is free. So I use freevoipdeal.com's callback to call Switzerland. Once you get the hang of it it's no big hassle. Result: Swiss fixed line is free, Swiss mobile is 5c/minute; and submitted callerID is my Swiss mobile number, so everyone would think Im calling from my Swiss mobile number.
  • From the Swiss side, I just have a Swiss prepaid card allowing to receive calls on a Swiss number. Just have to recharge it once a year to keep it up and running.
  • One more trick: When roaming outside of Switzerland, I divert my Swiss mobile# to the German fixed line#. With Aldi-mobile this happens at 14rp/minute. So whenever someone calls my Swiss mobile# while Im not in Switzerland, I pay 14rp/minute to receive the call.
Granted, all I bit tricky to set up (I guess that's why more than 99% of people would never do this), but once it's set up it's absolutely unbeatable.
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Re: In 2017 No More Roaming Charges in EU

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some German operators already have plans according to (parts of) this ruling.

I use base.de. At €28/month I have
  • 1GB which can be used throughout all of the the EU (they currently have a 2GB offer for the same price)
  • (EU reads EU + CH + Liechtenstein + Iceland + Norway + appendices such as Gibraltar, Isle of Man etc...)
  • All calls to Germany are included (doesn't matter from where)
  • Calls to all other EU destinations are 9c/minute (doesn't matter from where)
  • base.de also provide a German fixed line number, which rings on the mobile. Receiving calls on this fixed line is free. So I use freevoipdeal.com's callback to call Switzerland. Once you get the hang of it it's no big hassle. Result: Swiss fixed line is free, Swiss mobile is 5c/minute; and submitted callerID is my Swiss mobile number, so everyone would think Im calling from my Swiss mobile number.
  • From the Swiss side, I just have a Swiss prepaid card allowing to receive calls on a Swiss number. Just have to recharge it once a year to keep it up and running.
  • One more trick: When roaming outside of Switzerland, I divert my Swiss mobile# to the German fixed line#. With Aldi-mobile this happens at 14rp/minute. So whenever someone calls my Swiss mobile# while Im not in Switzerland, I pay 14rp/minute to receive the call.
Granted, all I bit tricky to set up (I guess that's why more than 99% of people would never do this), but once it's set up it's absolutely unbeatable.
Or use Viber.
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if will get interesting when carrying a french or other member eu sim card on PAYG is cheaper then a local swiss card. Im sure some carriers like lycamobile will come out with some decent tarriffs. Wait and see.

Actually Lycamobile already does this...they have several options that include free roaming. One of their plans charges 12 CHF for 200 minutes + 200 SMS to any number in Switzerland and the EU. However when roaming in certain european countries (UK, Germany, Italy...etc) you can call for free using just your alloted 200 minutes. Strangely enough they even let you roam in the USA. (though you are limited to the TMobile network)
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