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Billag Radio Licence refund

Hi, I left Switzerland in late April (boo hoo!) and applied for a refund of my radio licence (no TV). I was a little disappointed to find that, after paying 169.15 CHF for the year's subscription, my refund amounted to 3.10 CHF.

Leaving aside the plethora of choice this refund offers, is this right?? It seems a little parsimonious even after allowing for admin costs etc.

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Old 22.07.2015, 23:08
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Hi, I left Switzerland in late April (boo hoo!) and applied for a refund of my radio licence (no TV). I was a little disappointed to find that, after paying 169.15 CHF for the year's subscription, my refund amounted to 3.10 CHF.

Leaving aside the plethora of choice this refund offers, is this right?? It seems a little parsimonious even after allowing for admin costs etc.

Thanks
Rachel
When did the subscription run from, i.e how far was it backdated.

I got a full refund, don't think there were any admin costs deducted.
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Re: Billag Radio Licence refund

Hi, the payment of 169.15 CHF related to the year 2015. Effectively, I used only four months so expected to get around 110 CHF back.

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Old 22.07.2015, 23:24
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Re: Billag Radio Licence refund

Mine runs from September till September as that was the month I moved into my apartment. When did you go to Billag when you came here?
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Old 23.07.2015, 00:28
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Hi, the payment of 169.15 CHF related to the year 2015. Effectively, I used only four months so expected to get around 110 CHF back.

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I suspect that was for 6 months rather than a year.
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Old 23.07.2015, 00:40
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Re: Billag Radio Licence refund

You gave money to Billag.

Billag is a rabble of thieves.

Thieves don't normally give back their loot.

It's about time to abolish this racket.

Meet Whacky Mr De Weck, not only one of the few people in Switzerland officially exempt from paying, but the man who makes millions by producing lousy TV and radio. Of course there are people on this forum who actually defend him.

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You gave money to Billag.

Billag is a rabble of thieves.

Thieves don't normally give back their loot.

It's about time to abolish this racket.

Meet Whacky Mr De Weck, not only one of the few people in Switzerland officially exempt from paying, but the man who makes millions by producing lousy TV and radio. Of course there are people on this forum who actually defend him.

You're obsessed, I think you have a problem. Nevertheless, the Billag Inspector is no more, as now everyone pays. Billag is a giant pain in the ass and a waste of money, but I will point out some inaccuracies in your post: DeWeck earns about 550,000 annually, not millions, a low salary compared to others in his position in similarly sized companies. Secondly, until recently, every full time SRG employee didn't have to pay Fernsehgebuhren, as regulated by the union, SSM. Not much different than an employee of a periodical receiving free copies of said periodical, but it doesn't matter, we'll all be paying, SRG employee or not, with the recent rule change. So if you consider pointing out your inaccuracies as "defending DeWeck" so be it.


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You gave money to Billag.
Billag is a rabble of thieves.
Thieves don't normally give back their loot.
It's about time to abolish this racket.
Exactly, but if you don't pay it in the first place you don't need to ask for your money back.
You just tell them you don't have a TV and/or radio.
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Nevertheless, the Billag Inspector is no more, as now everyone pays.
Flapdoodle! There are plenty of people who certainly do not pay!

It is not compulsory and note however that the detection service has yet to be abolished. It will be years before there are any changes to the current system!

My neighbour has 2 TV sets for and several radios, doesn't pay and has never paid. She has never received a letter about it either!

My ex-colleague has several TV sets and radios, doesn't have a lot of money, has 3 children and only one salary coming in for 5 of them. They have never paid and never received a letter about it in 20 years!

I have 2 TV sets, 1 in use, connected to a VCR and a DVD-player, but can't receive live programming of any sort. I have never paid. I believe though I am now exempt until the future changeover, hopefully this will be much later rather than sooner!

People who do not have TV sets and/or radios, do not pay!

People who have told Billag they do not have devices, do not pay!

People who have never been contacted by Billag, and have not spontaneously contacted Billag themselves, do not pay!

People who are on some sorts of benefits, do not pay!

Some people in nursing homes, do not pay.

Some people with connections to embassies, diplomatic missions, consulates and the like, may be exempt and thus, do not pay!
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Billag is a giant pain in the ass and a waste of money
Of course it is! The trick is simply not to pay it!

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Old 23.07.2015, 10:06
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Meet Whacky Mr De Weck
What has he to to with Billag?

He is head of SRG, not head of Swisscom.

Billag is Swisscom, who in turn gives money to Bakom, who in turn gives SOME of the money paid to Billag (but hardly all) to SRG (among others).

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Old 23.07.2015, 10:18
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What has he to to with Billag?

He is head of SRG, not head of Swisscom.

Billag is Swisscom, who in turn gives money to Bakom, who in turn gives SOME of the money paid to Billag (but hardly all) to SRG (among others).

Tom
gives SOME of the money paid to Billag to SRG = gives MOST of the money (or what is left thereof after they've taken their share for their own pockets) to Billag

SRG is supposed to be politically neutral. Politically neutral means you don't take sides, even if it's your own head that's on the block. Or strictly speaking you can take sides privately but it musn't affect your work professionally. However, SRG and de Weck personally have been fighting tooth and nail to defend Billag and distort or suppress anti-Billag voices. That in my book is professional misconduct.

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Old 23.07.2015, 10:30
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Exactly, but if you don't pay it in the first place you don't need to ask for your money back.
You just tell them you don't have a TV and/or radio.

Flapdoodle! There are plenty of people who certainly do not pay!

It is not compulsory and note however that the detection service has yet to be abolished. It will be years before there are any changes to the current system!

My neighbour has 2 TV sets for and several radios, doesn't pay and has never paid. She has never received a letter about it either!

My ex-colleague has several TV sets and radios, doesn't have a lot of money, has 3 children and only one salary coming in for 5 of them. They have never paid and never received a letter about it in 20 years!

I have 2 TV sets, 1 in use, connected to a VCR and a DVD-player, but can't receive live programming of any sort. I have never paid. I believe though I am now exempt until the future changeover, hopefully this will be much later rather than sooner!

People who do not have TV sets and/or radios, do not pay!

People who have told Billag they do not have devices, do not pay!

People who have never been contacted by Billag, and have not spontaneously contacted Billag themselves, do not pay!

People who are on some sorts of benefits, do not pay!

Some people in nursing homes, do not pay.

Some people with connections to embassies, diplomatic missions, consulates and the like, may be exempt and thus, do not pay!

Of course it is! The trick is simply not to pay it!
You need to brush up on current events a bit. Might I suggest Tagesschau? They tell you about referendums that pass requiring everyone to pay a reduced fee, whether they own a TV or not, for exaple.
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Old 23.07.2015, 10:33
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DeWeck earns about 550,000 annually, not millions, a low salary compared to others in his position in similarly sized companies.
Are you so sure? SRG is a state company, not a private one. So his salary should be that of a civil servant. To the best of my information even the senior level of civil servants in Berne are around the 250K mark.

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Secondly, until recently, every full time SRG employee didn't have to pay Fernsehgebuhren, as regulated by the union, SSM. Not much different than an employee of a periodical receiving free copies of said periodical,
This is a huge distortion. A newspaper is a private entity and they can do with their money and free stuff as they like. When Billag send their Jehovas Witness types to knock on my door they always say "the law says". Whenever you try and argue with them, that is their first (and only) line of defence. So if this law is so pivotal to them, why does it not apply to us all? If you work in the tax office, you still pay taxes yourself, do you not? But Wavky deWeck's free Billag is genuinely free. This is an erosion of the principle that we're all equal before the law.

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but it doesn't matter, we'll all be paying, SRG employee or not, with the recent rule change. So if you consider pointing out your inaccuracies as "defending DeWeck" so be it.
Actually, I hope SRG gets privatised and finances itself and then deWeck is free to do just as he likes as far as I'm concerned.

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Frankly, the fact that the SVP spends so much time, effort, and rage on us makes me think we're doing something right.
I wonder if you've ever stopped to think why that might be?
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You need to brush up on current events a bit. Might I suggest Tagesschau? They tell you about referendums that pass requiring everyone to pay a reduced fee, whether they own a TV or not, for exaple.
If you don't own a TV, you pay zero.

Pray tell me, if you used to pay zero and afterwards have to pay a huge amount to Mr Wacky, how is that a reduction? Only your beloved Tagesschau seems to believe its own lies.
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You need to brush up on current events a bit. Might I suggest Tagesschau? They tell you about referendums that pass requiring everyone to pay a reduced fee, whether they own a TV or not, for exaple.
I am aware of the referedum.

We are currently though in July 2015.

The new system starts in either 2018 or 2019 and not before then!

There is then a further 5-year transitional period for those who currently do not pay. Meaning a lot of people who do not currently pay, including myself and people I know, might not begin paying anything at all until 2024. This is 9 years away!

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There is then a further 5-year transitional period for those who currently do not pay. Meaning a lot of people who do not currently pay, might not begin paying anything at all until 2024. This is 9 years away.
By which time hopefully you will might have to go to a museum if you want to know what a TV is.
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You need to brush up on current events a bit. Might I suggest Tagesschau? They tell you about referendums that pass requiring everyone to pay a reduced fee, whether they own a TV or not, for exaple.
Isn't asking Tagesschau whether we need to watch (and ahem, pay for) Tagesschau a bit like asking the Billag man whether you need to pay Billag or asking a Jehobas Witness whether you need to become a Jehovas Witness.

They don't do this thing called objectivity.
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Re: Billag Radio Licence refund

Isn't this all a bit déjà vu?
There's a huge thread about the rights and wrongs of Billag already. Can you not take your discussion there and leave this one for the OP and her specific question? No need to clog up another thread with the same old arguments.
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Isn't this all a bit déjà vu?
... same old arguments.
It isn't déjà vu for persons who joined the forum more recently. For me for example, it is a new discussion!
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It isn't déjà vu for persons who joined the forum more recently. For me for example, it is a new discussion!
What she means to say is that there's already a huge Billag thread in which our resident Wutbürger makes his opinion known. Over and over again.
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It isn't déjà vu for persons who joined the forum more recently. For me for example, it is a new discussion!
You can be excused because you're a newbie so it is new to you. Some of the others however should know better.

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What she means to say is that there's already a huge Billag thread in which our resident Wutbürger makes his opinion known. Over and over again.
Exactly. The same old arguments have been rehashed and regurgitated hundreds of times on that thread so no need to do the same on this one.
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