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I'm completely in the dark - beamer advice required

The projector type and not the black man's wheels type.

I've just emptied out and converted one of the rooms in the cellar into a games room and mini home cinema (for the girls) - well it has a big white wall and I now need a beamer.

The problem is - just looking on Digitec, alone - there are so many different ones and I haven't got a clue which filters to set (on their site) to start to eliminate many non-suitable ones.

The first filter, though is price - for occasional use I don't want to tie up loads of money - it just needs to work. The low of end of around (+/-) 500 is what I'm hoping.

The room measures 6x4 metres and the beamer would project the width distance, so in the throw would be in the region of 3.5 - 4.0 m.
I have also seen a 'kurzdistanz' filter on the Digitec site - do I only need to be considering these for this distance, or are all beamers multi adjustable and usable over any distance? .... and for such a distance do I really need a high resolution?

I only have a powerline adapter in a socket for internet, and unfortunately the signal isn't as strong as I'd like (not on the same circuit as the one from the router), and does drop out when I've used a few gadgets continuously for a prolonged time - but for now, it's all I have and will have to suffice.

The beamer may need to function with phone, iPad and laptop and a DVD player, if possible.

I really don't have a clue, and don't want to lose money on something that isn't suitable.
I am already starting to get information overload.



P.S. The search function hasn't yielded anything helpful.
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Re: I'm completely in the dark - beamer advice required

well, you do not need to restrict yourself saying it may work with an apple device.

There are adaptors for projectors like these:
http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MB...to-vga-adapter

and if that's fine for you then I may recommend this:
BENQ 1070
http://www.microspot.ch/msp/de/tv-vi...070-0000852016
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well, you do not need to restrict yourself saying it may work with an apple device.

There are adaptors for projectors like these:
http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MB...to-vga-adapter

and if that's fine for you then I may recommend this:
BENQ 1070
http://www.microspot.ch/msp/de/tv-vi...070-0000852016
Thanks, but it has to work on a multi platform level, and not just Apple.

But my confusion arises when I see the multitude of hardware and different specs.

Why for example have you made your recommendation of this particular product over any on the others on offer, for my particular requirements?

For example, I was also looking at a Benq - but it had a different product number and a different price, but looked similar.
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Re: I'm completely in the dark - beamer advice required

I've got this one, BENQ w700

It seemed like a good trade off between price and picture quality. We don't have a tv, blue ray player,etc. and just use the beamer to watch movies from the web via laptop, so picture quality wouldn't improve much anyway without buying a full HD home cinema setup.

Our screen size is 110x195cm, with beamer situated 3.5m from screen. Beamer really needs to be in the correct spot to fill the screen but not spill over, with a sharp focus. (only has about a 20 cm leeway, at most)

The unit had quite a bit of annoying rainbow effect when new, but that gradually went away after some use. (30hrs?)

The screen cost approx CHF 120 IIRC. Another CHF15? for the adaptor from hdmi cable to laptop plug-in. And if ceiling mounting, you'll need a decent bracket (CHF 100?) and longer cables, and probably some plastic conduit to hide them in, and obviously have to drill a bunch of holes.

Ours is in the living room, screen is mounted on wall and unrolls like a classic projector screen by pulling down the spring loaded cord. Basically out of sight when not in use. Beamer is stored away and taken out/set on coffee table to use. (I didn't feel like having the thing hanging from the ceiling, doing the install, etc. - and it wouldn't have had clearance to project past the light fixtures, anyway)

If your wall is white, and you project onto the wall, it's a great idea to make a black frame (painted wood?) for the projection area. Drastically improves the perceived definition.

We bought everything in one go from Steg electronics, after I spent a while researching on the web.

Hope that helps!
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Thanks, but it has to work on a multi platform level, and not just Apple.

But my confusion arises when I see the multitude of hardware and different specs.

Why for example have you made your recommendation of this particular product over any on the others on offer, for my particular requirements?

For example, I was also looking at a Benq - but it had a different product number and a different price, but looked similar.
This one works perfectly at distances around 4m
It is a very nice Full HD Projector
Not that expensive (~700)
Comes with 3D support (If necessary)
And if you have a chance to compare this to some similar ones, this is a killer

last but not least I use it my self at home, bought after several days of search

I am not telling that it is the best, and I will not go into discussion with people telling me the cons of it

It is always relational when it comes to hardware but as I have decided to buy one, last year, I came up with this one.

I am now using it with PS4 - PS3 (Also as Bluray Players), Laptop(rarely needed), Western Digital media player(legally Downloaded staff ) (which of all are connected to a home network) + Home Theater
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Re: I'm completely in the dark - beamer advice required

i have a projector in a similar room around 4.5*4.5m. I have the projector on the one wall projecting to the opposite wall. the projection image is around 1.8*3.5m hd ready and I cannot see pixels. But I sit next to the projector. if i go closer i can see the image being pixelated.
things to consider and the priorities..
1) the more lumen the better, go for sth around 3000
2) resolution, full hd projectors start around 500-600chf, hd ready around 350-400
3) how loud it is.. the less db the better
4) the lamps inside the projector are disposable, after some thousands of hours the image quality goes bad, So check how many working hours the manufactorer says that the lamp provides and how much a replacement lamp costs.
go to toppreise check which projectors fit your budget, search for reviews and buy one.. it is the buy I have enjoyed the most

ps. I bought the acer p1320w 2 years ago for 350chf and apart from being a bit loud i am super happy.
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Re: I'm completely in the dark - beamer advice required

I have an "Optoma HD131X, DLP, FullHD (1080) Heimkinoprojektor, 2000 ANSI, 3D" which was on the cheaper end of the price scale at the time. I think something like this is what you're looking for. The picture quality is great. I recommend an HD projector to everyone I meet. More expensive models can be quieter and offer greater optical adjustment (via lens adjustment etc). For example mine only has left and right tombstone adjustment so the projector has to be in the middle of the picture. It has HDMI connectors and I think some others. I bought a separate (relatively expensive) receiver for mine to switch between different inputs and to connect to a surround-sound system. You used to be able to buy all-in-one home theatre bluray players with additional HDMI inputs which would work in a similar way but at a much lower price.
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Re: I'm completely in the dark - beamer advice required

Hi,


with a room your size, you don't need a "kurzdistanz" beamer. A normal one will do.


Get a Full HD. Your screen size on a 4m wall will be pretty large. If you are in a cellar and have no windows, i.e., very dark room, you don't need a beamer with super strong brightness.


Apple TV is nice, but for less price, you can get a Bluray player and connect it to your powerline and use DNLA to browse and view your files.

You also need to spend a few hundred Fr. on the sound system - see if it includes airplay.
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Re: I'm completely in the dark - beamer advice required

BENQ 1070 is an excellent projector for the money!
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BENQ 1070 is an excellent projector for the money!
I just had a quick look and according to the specs this one is a bit noisier than my old optoma hd131x, has slightly lower contrast ratio and a shorter throw distance. If I was looking for a new projector myself, i wouldn't want anything noisier than what I have right now.

There's a calculator here which might be useful
http://www.projectorcentral.com/BenQ...ulator-pro.htm
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Re: I'm completely in the dark - beamer advice required

Hi TiMow,

I've set up a little home cinema in a 5x3 meters room using the Optoma GT1080 short-distance projector.

Based on what you write, I think it would also be a great fit for you. It's FullHD and it throws a 2 meters wide image from 1 meter distance (see attachment).

No matter what people say about the optimum viewing distance/screen size ratio, I totally enjoy the big, high-quality display even from 3 meters distance. And of course, high resolution rocks! I wouldn't go for less than 1080p if you'd like to have a halfway decent home theater.

I also appreciate that the GT1080 has 2800 ANSI lumens, two HDMI ports (one of them is MHL-capable for smartphone connectivity) and quite a long lamp life of ~6000 hours.

The noise level is quite low (26dB in Eco mode). And since the projector is close to the opposite wall and NOT above my head, it's even more silent than using a long-throw setup.

The integrated speaker is alright, but I'm using a Teufel sound system instead.

Currently, you can get the projector forBack then, I ordered it from Amazon and picked it up at the border to save the German VAT.
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