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Old 28.11.2015, 18:20
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iPhone 5 - forgotten passcode .... what are the options?

So my daughter finally remembered she had an unused iPhone 5 in a drawer and thought she'd gift it to her mother.

Having charged it up, she then couldn't remember her 4digit passcode to unlock it (not SIM code) .... and of course it's not recorded anywhere or an easy to remember number based on something known.

She believes she knows the digits, but is struggling with the order and is now getting locked out for an hour with every false input.

If everything fails, are there any options, or is it a lost cause if the last used state wants to be retained?


Bloody spoilt yoof of today .... I blame the mother.



P.S. I am aware of some of the solutions on google and Apple support, but wanted to check if any of you crafty buggers, knew a way to do it without losing all the data.
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Old 28.11.2015, 18:30
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Re: iPhone 5 - forgotten passcode .... what are the options?

Which iOS version?

Put the phone into recovery (aka DFU) mode whilst connected to iTunes and restore. If it's iOS9 (and maybe iOS8, I can't remember) then you'll need to provide the Apple ID and password the phone is using for iCloud stuff.

Then recover the phone - which will set it up as new. You can restore a recent iCloud or iTunes backup onto it afterwards, if you wish.

Of course, you'll lose all data since the last backup. Which will be everything if you have no backup. Just keep trying to guess the passcode, assuming no "wipe phone after 10 incorrect entries" is set.
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Old 28.11.2015, 18:36
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Re: iPhone 5 - forgotten passcode .... what are the options?

If she does have the right digits then there are only 24 combinations to try; at an hour apiece that still leaves plenty of time before Christmas. Write them all down on a scrap of paper and cross them out one by one as you try them.
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Old 28.11.2015, 18:38
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Re: iPhone 5 - forgotten passcode .... what are the options?

If that doesn't work, try this:

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Old 28.11.2015, 18:52
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Re: iPhone 5 - forgotten passcode .... what are the options?

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If that doesn't work, try this:

That trick will only work with a very early version of iOS 7.

OK, the question that I have is if this phone has been sitting in a drawer for god knows how long then why is the data that important? Especially as it's going to be gifted to her mother. The first thing I'd do before giving a phone to somebody else is completely erase it.

Anyway a DFU, as Adrian has said, will get the phone back without the data.

To do a DFU first connect the phone to your computer while iTunes is running, then hold the power button and home button for 10 seconds. as soon as the 10 seconds is up release the power button, but continue to hold the home button. If successful iTunes will report that it's detected an iPhone in recovery mode. From there you'll be able to clean install the iPhone.
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Old 28.11.2015, 19:01
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Re: iPhone 5 - forgotten passcode .... what are the options?

Thanks all ..... panic over/false alarm.
I probably jumped the gun a bit with this thread.

Once the hour was over, she contacted one of her college friends, who used to play games on it, who fortunately has a better memory than my daughter and was able to recall the code.

The stupid thing, now, though, is that my wife already has an iPhone 4, which she got after Christmas nearly two years ago, from Mobilezone with a MBudget abo, so her SIM is probably locked to that phone for the next month, so can't swap it anyway.
Fortunately I just remembered, before cutting it down to nano.
She's going to look into it, with her abo.

Regarding the data, I think she just wanted to double check that she had everything she needed on her current phone.
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Old 28.11.2015, 19:28
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The stupid thing, now, though, is that my wife already has an iPhone 4, which she got after Christmas nearly two years ago, from Mobilezone with a MBudget abo, so her SIM is probably locked to that phone for the next month, so can't swap it anyway.
Actually phones are locked to network providers - assuming they're locked. SIMs are not locked to phones. However it's not that simple in your case. The SIM in the iPhone 4 is a micro SIM, and the SIM required for the iPhone 5 is a nano sim, meaning it won't fit - it'll be too big . You'll have to either get the existing SIM cut down to fit (a lot of places offer this service), or order a new nano SIM from your network provider.
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Old 28.11.2015, 19:36
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Actually phones are locked to network providers - assuming they're locked. SIMs are not locked to phones. However it's not that simple in your case. The SIM in the iPhone 4 is a micro SIM, and the SIM required for the iPhone 5 is a nano sim, meaning it won't fit - it'll be too big . You'll have to either get the existing SIM cut down to fit (a lot of places offer this service), or order a new nano SIM from your network provider.
I thought that the SIMs were locked to the phone - hence when phones are offered for sale, they're advertised as 'not SIM locked'.
Isn't it a way to ensure that people taking advantage of free or cheap phones, at least stay with the network, offering the abo for that phone, for two years, when the sub. should have payed for the phone.

As for the SIM size, I invested in a cutter from Mr. Amazon, when I changed my phone and needed to downsize from standard to micro. Has a setting to stamp out a nano size.

I'm ignorant in this, as I've never had an abo - always been PAYG, where it doesn't matter (until you forget about the anti-theft app. that sounds an alarm, when the SIM is taken out and cut to go in the new phone).
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Re: iPhone 5 - forgotten passcode .... what are the options?

No, the phones are network locked. You can use the SIM in any phone that's not network provider locked, or in a locked phone if it's locked to the same network provider that issued the SIM.

SIM locked is a bit of a misnomer. It actually means network locked, and it only applies to the phone, not the SIM.
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Once the hour was over, she contacted one of her college friends, who used to play games on it, who fortunately has a better memory than my daughter and was able to recall the code...
And you've instructed your daughter what the Personal means in Personal Identification Number? Or does she tell her friends her bank card PIN as well.
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