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After TCP optimisation and some proprietary custom tweaks.....
I think you're looking at local caching ....
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I think you're looking at local caching ....

Not local on my PC, task manager network stats verify NIC throughput. It's cached maybe somewhere within Cablecom, but that still means I can achieve the speeds seen. Maybe they don't cap their internal network... Certainly not a browser cache for sure... The tests are designed to avoid any local caching per se, otherwise everyone would get these speeds...

That linked software affects registry settings and nothing else. The rest is driver/router tweaks.
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Interesting. I have just signed the lease on a new apartment and the building is wired for Cablecom to the wall socket in all the apartments.

I presume Cablecom provides the cable modem unit?
Does Cablecom provide the wireless router ?
I have a 'free' one from Unity Media in Germany where I had 6Mbit. No idea if it is 'N' - compliant.

The offer page
http://www.cablecom.ch/en/b2c/internet.htm
has theoretical max of 50Mbit for 60 franks.

Would the customer actually get something near that or am I better booking 20 Mbit (which is already very quick) ?
Cablecom offers up to 100Mbps downlaod speed at addresses connected to the DOCSIS 3.0 platform

On some locations, only DOCSIS 2.0 is available, and the max down speed is about 25Mbps
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

Hello Everyone,

I was wondering if anyone has a tip for an internet provider (cable, adsl or anything with above 400kbit upload) that does not require a year contract. I'll probably be living in Switzerland for 6 months, it feels unnecessary to take out a contract for double that time.
I've looked at cablecom (was advised by the landlord) but they work with 12 month contracts. Adsl seems expensive since I have no need for a phone line, but an old phone connection (6 pins) does seem to be available next to the cable.
Any ideas?
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Cablecom offers up to 100Mbps downlaod speed at addresses connected to the DOCSIS 3.0 platform

On some locations, only DOCSIS 2.0 is available, and the max down speed is about 25Mbps
Allhough , interestingly, Cablecom caps at 100 and not anywhere near the limits, DOCSIS 3.0 speeds are 400 mb/s plus, uncapped Cablecom performance is, as per my previous posts right up there towards the maximums. DOCSIS 2.0 cablecom customers are limited to 50 Mb/s although in some areas due to equipment this can be as low as 25 Mb/s
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Hello Everyone,

I was wondering if anyone has a tip for an internet provider (cable, adsl or anything with above 400kbit upload) that does not require a year contract. I'll probably be living in Switzerland for 6 months, it feels unnecessary to take out a contract for double that time.
I've looked at cablecom (was advised by the landlord) but they work with 12 month contracts. Adsl seems expensive since I have no need for a phone line, but an old phone connection (6 pins) does seem to be available next to the cable.
Any ideas?
400 upload or download ? If you meant upload, are you streaming ? Most Low end packages will easily get you those speeds but will be capped in terms of GB allowance and will cost you more in the long run. Consider a USB modem for contract freedom. I doubt any other package will give you the 6 month contract...
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400 upload or download ? If you meant upload, are you streaming ? Most Low end packages will easily get you those speeds but will be capped in terms of GB allowance and will cost you more in the long run. Consider a USB modem for contract freedom. I doubt any other package will give you the 6 month contract...
I was overly specific with the upload speed. I just want my emails (with attachments) to go out at a reasonable speed, and I'm a big fan of Dropbox (dropbox.com) which also profits from a reasonable upload speed. I'm not that much of a bandwidth hog apart from that.

The big barrier indeed is the minimal contract term, I'm going to call cablecom to see what they can do, but I suppose they aren't just going to give me a 6 month contract.
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

To follow up on my request. I've been in contact with cablecom and they do allow you to cancel the contract before the end of the contract term if:
- You relocate to a place abroad
- You relocate to a place where cablecom does not provide service.

Went ahead and took the fibrepower 20 with them
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

I am looking to sign up for some kind of internet service (not sure whether to choose Cablecom or Swisscom) and whilst looking at both sites I tried to see if either was available in my area (St-Maurice).

Swisscom asked me for the phone number of the address - I don't have one yet since I am signing up as a new customer.

Do apartments come with existing phone numbers? If so, how do I find out what the number is? We haven't moved into the apartment yet. Will our landlord tell us the number?

When trying to check the availability on Cablecom (I entered the address of the apartment) it said that the service was unavailable in that area. Does anyone live in St-Maurice or near and do you know if Cablecom 'Hispeed' is indeed unavailable in that area?
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Here is my 2 cents/rappen : ( and the reason why i took Cablecom)

I phoned Swisscom and Cablecom on Wednsday :

Swisscom Adsl Offers :

Download 20mb
upload 1 mb
Price 69 Chf per month

Delivery time is 2 weeks

What they don't tell you in the add , you need a telephone line so add 25 chf per month to that bill,regardless using the phone line for calls or not.

They offer you Adsl without a phone line if you have a mobile phone package with them,for..exactly, .. 25 Chf

So the total monthly charge is 94 Chf ( this was the only option he could give me)

Cablecom :

Download 20mb
upload 2 mb
Price : 50 Chf and a once off 30 chf activation :80 chf for the first month, after that the Monthly charge will be just 50 Chf

I rang wednesday afternoon and ordered , got a " welcome " letter on thursday and by 11.30 on friday morning, i received a post pack with my modem.

Plugged it in the socket, and after 5 minutes i was surfing at 22mb speeds over the interweb

So handsdown, Cablecom works out the cheapest and fastest, so far no complaints, loving every bit of it.

Happy to drop the overpriced Orange Mobile Usb Stick at 5 Chf per day, its slow, drops out every so often and their customer service agents are rude and unfriendly.

That's all folks

Joey
That was quite short, precise and informative. Thanks!
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Here is my 2 cents/rappen : ( and the reason why i took Cablecom)

I phoned Swisscom and Cablecom on Wednsday :

Swisscom Adsl Offers :

Download 20mb
upload 1 mb
Price 69 Chf per month

Delivery time is 2 weeks

What they don't tell you in the add , you need a telephone line so add 25 chf per month to that bill,regardless using the phone line for calls or not.

They offer you Adsl without a phone line if you have a mobile phone package with them,for..exactly, .. 25 Chf

So the total monthly charge is 94 Chf ( this was the only option he could give me)

Cablecom :

Download 20mb
upload 2 mb
Price : 50 Chf and a once off 30 chf activation :80 chf for the first month, after that the Monthly charge will be just 50 Chf

I rang wednesday afternoon and ordered , got a " welcome " letter on thursday and by 11.30 on friday morning, i received a post pack with my modem.

Plugged it in the socket, and after 5 minutes i was surfing at 22mb speeds over the interweb

So handsdown, Cablecom works out the cheapest and fastest, so far no complaints, loving every bit of it.

Happy to drop the overpriced Orange Mobile Usb Stick at 5 Chf per day, its slow, drops out every so often and their customer service agents are rude and unfriendly.

That's all folks

Joey
Lucky you. Some of us don't have the possibility to use Cablecom.

The offer from Swisscom you gave is ADSL-Max which does also include free land-line calls in Switzerland but still at a major price hike especially when you include the cost for the phone line (however most people have a land line phone).
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Lucky you. Some of us don't have the possibility to use Cablecom.

The offer from Swisscom you gave is ADSL-Max which does also include free land-line calls in Switzerland but still at a major price hike especially when you include the cost for the phone line (however most people have a land line phone).
Cablecom currently offer free calls within Switzerland bundled with Fiber Power 20 for CHF62.50/month (there is a CHF30 conection charge. Phone numbers can be ported. Internal extensions require further hardware):

http://www.cablecom.ch/en/b2c/2for1.5
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Cablecom currently offer free calls within Switzerland bundled with Fiber Power 20 for CHF62.50/month (there is a CHF30 conection charge. Phone numbers can be ported. Internal extensions require further hardware):

http://www.cablecom.ch/en/b2c/2for1.5
Wonderful, But once again not available to myself and many other people here...
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

I placed my order with Cablecom 1st September. On the 3rd I had the modem waiting in my mailbox and service activated!
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Ordered my cablecom 20mb wednesday and got it today. After 5 minutes it was up and running. Speed is 18mbps+, so far pretty cool
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

I've just signed the service over the website.

Now came to my mind:
I'll receive an adaptor to put on the wall, which will be connected with the standard one that my house has now?

Another point: My TV will be a little distant from where is the socket on the wall. Is it easy to find a big cable?

Thanks in advance!
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I've just signed the service over the website.

Now came to my mind:
I'll receive an adaptor to put on the wall, which will be connected with the standard one that my house has now?

Another point: My TV will be a little distant from where is the socket on the wall. Is it easy to find a big cable?

Thanks in advance!
The Cablecom cable from the wall socket to the mediabox is 2 metres (if I remember) and they advice up to 5 metres is fine before the signal is compromised. My media centre is about 3 or 3.5 metres from the wall socket so I also need to buy such a cable. Not sure what to search for at Digitec.

Is it a special cable ?

Ta
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Here is my 2 cents/rappen : ( and the reason why i took Cablecom)

I phoned Swisscom and Cablecom on Wednsday :
Swisscom Adsl Offers :
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What they don't tell you in the add , you need a telephone line so add 25 chf per month to that bill,regardless using the phone line for calls or not.
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Cablecom are also charging a similar monthly line rental fee but for most people its included in the Nebenkosten and is part of their rent so they don't notice it.
See http://www.cablecom.ch/en/b2c/kabela...ogebuehren.htm.

You can ask Cablecom to come and seal the sockets or disconnect the link coming into the house which they tend to do quite quickly. The tricky part in my experience is then having the landlord reduce your Nebenkosten accordingly.
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

The "subscription charge for the use of the cable connection" you will pay even if you do not use the cable connection (no TV, no internet over cable). As pointed out, you can get the outlets sealed and you won't have to pay anymore (also Billag stopped bothering me). But it doesn't have to be cablecom who supplies you with the cable. In some areas there are local providers. This might be the reason if you cannot get internet from cablecom. Some local providers also offer internet over cable - and might even be cheaper than cablecom but it might also be that your building doesn't have the necessary infrastructure .
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Bluewin will be addressing the bandwidth issue by June/July so that 600 @ 49 francs becomes 2000 @ same price.

I see cablecom bringing in more pipe for the same price and would expect 75 francs (that I'm paying now for 2000/400) to become 4000 or even 6000 at the same price.

Otherwise people are going to jump ship after cablecom has shown the desire to lead the way for so long with regards to high bandwidth at relatively low cost...
Cablecom offers 20 Mbit down and 2 Mbit up for 50 sfr. In certain markets they offer also 50 MBit and 100 Mbit lines.
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