>>2G<< iPhone in Switzerland - Page 22

nickatbasel · #**421** 29.01.2008, 15:37

Hi,

There's an interesting article on The Register about this whole iPhone story:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01...ocked_iphones/

There are some interesting points about the mobile provider lock-ins - especially the notion that when you buy a BMW, they don't force you to buy petrol from one particular garage; nor do the manufacturers of fridges dictate to you which electricity company you have to buy power from.

I always thought that Mac fans were the type of people who are opposed to the alleged anti-competitive tactics of Microsoft - but Apple are just as bad by all accounts.

Cheers,
Nick

tintin2k2 · #**422** 29.01.2008, 15:46

So finally does anyone have any idea when the iphone is gonna come to Swiss Territory if it is gonna come ??

sambrightman · #**423** 29.01.2008, 16:58

much as i'm opposed to lock-ins, that's a really poor analogy. the price of the bmw is not heavily subsidised by the fuel companies.

robban · #**424** 29.01.2008, 17:19

	Quote:	tintin2k2
	So finally does anyone have any idea when the iphone is gonna come to Swiss Territory if it is gonna come ??

I think no-one's answering because we have already discussed this on this forum, so I suggest you do a search. Basically, no-one knows definitively when/if the iphone will be offered by a swiss company.

nickatbasel · #**425** 30.01.2008, 08:16

	Quote:	robban
	I think no-one's answering because we have already discussed this on this forum, so I suggest you do a search. Basically, no-one knows definitively when/if the iphone will be offered by a swiss company.

Add to that the fact that nobody actually cares.

Cheers,

Nick

sambrightman · #**426** 30.01.2008, 08:28

	Quote:	nickatbasel
	Add to that the fact that nobody actually cares.

presumably that's why there are 15 pages of comments on this thread.

Polorise · #**427** 30.01.2008, 12:16

	Quote:	dawiz
	10% for RIM? didn't know that - I thought they got flat-rates for each customer. Anyway, RIM doesn't cash in on voice, which makes that less evil in my eyes. And there's another substantial difference: RIM is a service provider. They make money on that service. Apple doesn't provide any service whatsoever and still cashes in substantially - that's the real issue here. Also - on the Blackberry push-mail actually works :-) dawiz

4M handsets shipped & 25% unlocked .....

http://www.reuters.com/article/busin...32924620080128

am sure this will make Apple shareholders happy .... not

	Quote:
	For example, Sacconaghi said, if Apple hit its sales goal of 10 million iPhones by the end of fiscal 2008 but 30 percent of those don't result in any carrier payments, its revenue and profit would be $500 million and 37 cents per share lower than expected.

grumpygrapefruit · #**428** 30.01.2008, 14:15

O2 cuts tariffs for the iPhone in UK

They're quoted as saying the iPhone is their fasting selling device - I wonder why they're cutting the costs then...

nickatbasel · #**429** 30.01.2008, 15:01

	Quote:	sambrightman
	presumably that's why there are 15 pages of comments on this thread.

My mistake - I thought I had stumbled on a theological discussion...

Cheers,
Nick

krlock3 · #**430** 30.01.2008, 15:47

	Quote:	nickatbasel
	My mistake - I thought I had stumbled on a theological discussion... Cheers, Nick

for some of us, it actually gets quite close to theology.

sambrightman · #**431** 30.01.2008, 15:54

	Quote:	grumpygrapefruit
	O2 cuts tariffs for the iPhone in UK They're quoted as saying the iPhone is their fasting selling device - I wonder why they're cutting the costs then...

To a certain extent (especially cutting price of phone in US) you could argue this is market segmentation. By now the ubergeeks have all unloaded their wallets and they want to target the next ones down the food chain. However the retroactive price reduction is a little strange. Maybe something to do with people using them in a way that isn't optimal for O2 profits?

	Quote:	krlock3
	for some of us, it actually gets quite close to theology.

Not me - I'm not an Apple fanboy and have never owned anything from them. I was just pointing out an obvious fallacy.

Dreeke · #**432** 02.02.2008, 08:30

So according the following sources the iPhone will be released with Swisscom as a carrier late February:

(in English): http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipod-itune...m?newsid=20319

(in French): http://www.letemps.ch/template/econo...article=224399

The French article makes a point that Swisscom would not want to offer the current version of the iPhone and speculates if Apple would release a new model before the end of February.

dawiz · #**433** 02.02.2008, 09:29

	Quote:	Dreeke
	So according the following sources the iPhone will be released with Swisscom as a carrier late February:

Pure speculation. Le Temps picked up a very old and unsubstantiated rumor that was posted a couple of months ago in some forum and later used as the basis for an article in some economics magazine. Swisscom has repeatedly denied that rumor. Schloter himself publicly denied the rumor on TV a couple of weeks ago and said they're in negotiations with Apple and that they aren't interested in the 2G version.

And as for a 3G phone being released in Feburary: not going to happen. Apple said they'd introduce such a phone in the 3rd or 4th quarter this year at the earliest.

peter

Dreeke · #**434** 02.02.2008, 09:35

	Quote:	dawiz
	And as for a 3G phone being released in Feburary: not going to happen. Apple said they'd introduce such a phone in the 3rd or 4th quarter this year at the earliest. peter

Bummer ...

I currently own an iPhone and am totally in love with it. Works great. Best phone I have owned. I would get a new model in a heartbeat once it gets officially released here.

krlock3 · #**435** 04.02.2008, 11:39

i personally think we will hear some kind of news either this week or next.

there you go... i speculated!

Polorise · #**436** 08.02.2008, 00:06

	Quote:	krlock3
	i personally think we will hear some kind of news either this week or next. there you go... i speculated!

more speculation here :

iPhone World

robban · #**437** 08.02.2008, 13:56

Hmm.. lots of different rumour sites are saying similar things - that there is to be a media event at the end of Feb, though it might be the SDK launch.

TUAW tip-off.

Jonathan_hughes76 · #**438** 08.02.2008, 19:38

Overpriced icon IMHO

krlock3 · #**439** 09.02.2008, 20:16

what i dont like is the rumour that is will be chf 999 without contract, or chf 649 with contract (for 8gb? no idea).... but chf 75 per MONTH!!!!

say that aint so!!!

Polorise · #**440** 09.02.2008, 20:21

	Quote:	krlock3
	what i dont like is the rumour that is will be chf 999 without contract, or chf 649 with contract (for 8gb? no idea).... but chf 75 per MONTH!!!! say that aint so!!!

I don't think the handset will be subsidised in any way on the Swiss market. Also, 75 chuffs a month is similar to the French & German pricing (remember, Jobs has to get his 14% too)