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14.05.2009, 23:22
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You never said in the org post that your sister had SKY already.
Tread carefully here. Ideally you should have the second subscription in a different name to avoid SKY asking to many questions. i.e. SKY don't know if the address is a single house or apartment...
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15.05.2009, 08:08
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Just so you know, I tried to setup a second subscrption at my parents address, and after many long discussions with SKY, the only option was to have the second account at one of my brothers.
If under the same name at the same address you should have multi-room, if not they won't setup the second account.
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15.05.2009, 10:17
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Hi all,
Thanx for the tips,
Hummm ok, that is not fine at all indeed  .
Did you use your brother, because, the person has to live in the UK. Said differently, while I will be paying by myself with my credit card, does the subscription still has to be on the name of my sister? Can't I take it at my name but with the address of my sister which would imply that she is hosting me? It seams like you did not vote for this late one. Why that? Could you clarify it for me?
In the worst case indeed, if I summarize well all your tips, the only option I have indeed would be to ask her to take the subscription at her name without a BOX with the explanation of the telephone issue in the new room. Buying a new box at full price, setting it up by herself by among other things calling SKY for activation and then shipping it to me. Of course the credit card for the subscription would be mine not her.
Please let me know ...
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Maatari
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15.05.2009, 15:13
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If you read the all discussion you will see that their is certain things that you are saying that seams to be in contradiction. Because, the conclusion that can be drawn from what you say is that they indeed check if your box is connected. However, if you read above, you will see that everybody has tended to tell me not to worry too much about the 12 months and the phone line, It is required only for the multi-room. You are not helping because you re just making things more confuse than they are. So before getting mad at me because I may have difficulty to understand, you better re-read the entire discussion. Because, sincerely I learnt nothing with your post, you just bring confusion. If you want to be clear, take my situation and make me a list which say here is what you need to do in your situation :
1 .... (i'm pretty sure)
2 .... (but maybe a problem it's up to you but for me it works)
3 ...
4 ....
And you may justify all the steps so that it may make sense to anyone and people may even suggest other solution to solves the different steps. If I'm asking it here, it is precisely because their is too much post with contradictory information. Don't be mad at me I'm asking | | The following 2 users groan at maatari for this post: | | 
15.05.2009, 15:25
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I mean, it is all bad what you're saying. Why don't you tell me straight, take a SKY agent. You are explaining in fact that there is no way I can't avoid the phone line checking. I'm just confuse with what you are saying. If you're not happy keep you answer because, when emotion comes it biased your judgment and then you're telling things which are of no help at all.
SO, because my sister has SKY already, it means that I must pass by a SKY agent, because in any case it will get cut off by SKY within 12 months because my BOX won't be connected to the line. That is what you are saying.
This contradict the fact that above it is written that | Quote: |  | | | | Quote: |  | | | maatari
Thank for the info. Still the answer is not so clear. Apparently, the only way is to say that you can't have phone in the room which would explain why you don't want the multi-room. But I don't understand that. I thought that for activating a SKYbox you needed a Line. I thought that within 12 months they probably check if your sKYBOX is connected. So how come you can explain that you don't have phone in that room, and at the same time want to have a skybox in there. IT just does not make sense to me.
What is needed for a SKYBOX: A Line or not ?
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-m- | | | | | NO phone line is needed (especially when you buy the box at FULL price or second hand).
You MUST :
Have a UK Address.
Call them to activate your card, but if they see you are calling from abroad you are in deep s*!t. I've even heard them questioning why the number is blocked. So best to try and do this from the UK, or get a Tesco internet phone.
Personally I would NOT use an agent unless there was no other option. SKY is already a RIP-OFF and the extra cost for an agent makes this even more expensive. | | | | | I mean it is just confusing what you are saying, do you feel like you brought me the light ? :-)
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15.05.2009, 15:33
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Not mad, just telling you what will happen and it is clear on the 12 month contractual rule on the sky site, as it is a legal thing to do with broadcasting rights for certain media transmission. It has also been covered on here extensively on various threads, and you have had it explained on this thread.
They do check, as they wrote to me to tell me they ran the check and no phone line was detected, then kill they card. As the contract states that if you rent the box and take it abroad you are in breach of contract, again this is clear on there site, so they can demand the return of the box. The rules have not changed and have been that way for at least 3 years or more, as that was when I was caught out. Ways to get around it have been provided, but what you want is not practicable. An understanding of how sky works and what you actually want in terms of package would also help.
Groaning is not a way to endear yourself when looking for help either, whether the answer is the one you wanted or not.
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15.05.2009, 15:48
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| | | Re: Sky agent or Using an address from the UK | Quote: | |  | | | I mean, it is all bad what you're saying. Why don't you tell me straight, take a SKY agent. You are explaining in fact that there is no way I can't avoid the phone line checking. I'm just confuse with what you are saying. If you're not happy keep you answer because, when emotion comes it biased your judgment and then you're telling things which are of no help at all.
SO, because my sister has SKY already, it means that I must pass by a SKY agent, because in any case it will get cut off by SKY within 12 months because my BOX won't be connected to the line. That is what you are saying.
This contradict the fact that above it is written that
I mean it is just confusing what you are saying, do you feel like you brought me the light ? :-) | | | | | Judging by your posts English isn't your first language, so maybe some of the jargon is confusing, so I'll say it again simply (not meant to be patronising):
A subscription is only required for new connections, sky movies, sky box office, sky+, Sky HD, Sky Multiroom and scrambled chanels, this requires a phoneline for 12 months and this is contractual.
The free to air chanels do not require a subscription just, a box card and dish.
If you want the full package you must have a subscription or an agent.
I'm sorry you feel that the explination is not to your liking, but they are the rules under which sky operates. I and others told you how to obtain sky without using an agent, ie 2nd hand box and card and a Tesco internet phone account, or just the FTA package... how much more "light" do you want on here? However if you do want a fuller explination, send me your email via pm, and I'll try and go into greater detail than is practial here to explain it.
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15.05.2009, 17:12
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While members of this forum will attempt to help you, ultimately it has to be your decision. We can’t make it for you.
Members usually give their answers based on their own experience and so, you will sometimes get conflicting answers as their expenience has been different.
It does seem, from your comments, that you have not made much, or any, effort to find answers to your questions. Have you tried Google for Sky TV Europe ? This produces a mass of information. Have you looked at the Sky website ? I think you’ve got as much help as the members of the forum can give you and you should now be in a position to decide what action you are going to take. | | This user would like to thank Blonaybear for this useful post: | | 
15.05.2009, 18:58
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Hi Blonaybear,
You might be right but this depend on what is your line. I went to the website but indeed I did not read everything. I did read the all forum and what I could in the SKY website. So my bad and sorry if you feel like it was not enough. But my goal on this post was double. Getting the information I need as well as summarizing in a quite concise way what is sometimes difficult to catch up on the many threads. That is why I was asking confirmation and clarification, because I felt it might help many people. I feel like you rely sometime to much on pragmatics or if i may say inference. In the sense, people indeed should infer too much things by themselves. Infer here is not synonym of "knowing something" but making deduction, induction or whatever lol. I was trying to help anyone who might be concerned hence myself as well.
Regards,
Maatari
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15.05.2009, 19:04
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| | | Re: Sky agent or Using an address from the UK | Quote: | |  | | | Not mad, just telling you what will happen and it is clear on the 12 month contractual rule on the sky site, as it is a legal thing to do with broadcasting rights for certain media transmission. It has also been covered on here extensively on various threads, and you have had it explained on this thread.
They do check, as they wrote to me to tell me they ran the check and no phone line was detected, then kill they card. As the contract states that if you rent the box and take it abroad you are in breach of contract, again this is clear on there site, so they can demand the return of the box. The rules have not changed and have been that way for at least 3 years or more, as that was when I was caught out. Ways to get around it have been provided, but what you want is not practicable. An understanding of how sky works and what you actually want in terms of package would also help.
Groaning is not a way to endear yourself when looking for help either, whether the answer is the one you wanted or not. | | | | | My apologies if my attitude deviate from what it should be on the forum. | | This user would like to thank maatari for this useful post: | | 
15.05.2009, 19:06
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Hi Papa Goose, and Owl and Pussycat,
My apologies if my attitude deviated from what the forum expect. | | This user would like to thank maatari for this useful post: | | 
15.05.2009, 19:36
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The problem with the question raised in this thread is that it’s simply not possible to give a definite answer.
I know three people who applied for a card and two succeeded and one failed. So, if you ask me is it possible then the answer is yes, but, if you ask if there is a guaranteed way of getting a card, then the answer has to be no. It would very much depend on how well you presented your application and on the person handling your enquiry. The obvious answer seems to be to try it and, if you fail, then consider a agent. | 
15.05.2009, 21:13
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Hey I just called Sky and try to explain my situation and hence he didn't work out. Indeed, They explicitly told me that if I don't you don't have a line in the room then you can't have multi-room.  At least they apply their rule. But what is fuzzy is that when I was chating with an adviser it was a completely different answer saying that it is not necessary to have the line in the room.
But most importantly, In both case they told me, it is one subscription per flat maximum. Meaning that, my sister has to upgrade to multi-room, we shall have the same package. Otherwise it is not possible.
So I guess the option of the 2nd hand box won't work either 
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15.05.2009, 21:15
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I guess they are now aware of many trick :-) .
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