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Re: Pegida marches against Islamisation of Europe

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In recent months a group known as Pegida has sprung up Germany. Their mission is to prevent Islamisation of Europe, and it appears that they are gaining popular support with a march of 15,000 people held in Dresden just last night. They're being dismissed as a far-right movement/right wing extremist movement in the press and by politicians. When one looks closer however it seems that the marches are made up of people across the political spectrum who have genuine fear of immigration into Germany and of losing their sense of identity and culture.

It would seem they have a point. Germany accepts more asylum seekers than any other country in the world, and on top of the large Turkish community recent years have seen a massive influx of people seeking asylum from war torn countries like Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia.

This is the trend across Europe at the moment, with UKIP expected to make big gains in next years elections in the UK and the Front National also gaining support in France. This is due in part to a lack of engagement of mainstream political parties to discuss immigration.

Despite their growing popularity, UKIP is still mocked at every opportunity in the Press and on TV, which has the effect of pushing people towards them. No doubt Godwin's law will come into play when discussing Pegida, which may only increase their support. When will mainstream politics realise this and start confronting the immigration issues affecting Europe today? What will it take?


http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...many-far-right

No, Germany, per capita, accepts far less immigrants than Switzerland


And what does confronting the Immigration issues mean ? The UMP of Nicolas Sarkozy has confronted those issues many years ago, actually during the Chirac Presidency, when Sarkozy was Interior Minister and Dominique de Villepin Foreign Minister. In Germany, both the CDU-CSU-alliance and the SPD had Immigration issues high up on their Agenda. In Switzerland, also the Liberals (FDP on the right) and the Social Democrats worked on the issues for years


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The newly arrived immigrants often fled war and genuine hardship and are happy to find a bit of peace and be left alone. But its the second and third generation who after failing to integrate turn to radical interpretations of the religion of their parents in hate of the culture that offered them shelter.

Among the Secondos and the third Generation, the religious radicals are, whenever dangerous, a small minority. Which means that is NOT "THE" 2nd 3rd Generation, but just some of them. AND a clear majority does successfully integrate, even if some of them fail


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