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Re: Donald Trump and Co

There are A LOT of verses asking the muslims to fight against the non-believers, some of them are even very specific about beheading and killing. There is even a mention that a muslim that avoids his/her "duty" will be sent to hell. IT'S ALL WRITTEN IN THE SACRED TEXT OF THE MUSLIMS.

According to the CIA, between 15% and 25% of the Muslims worldwide agree with extreme ideologies. Since there are 1.8 billion of muslims, we are talking about up to 450 million people who think it's OK to kill christians or stone adulterous women to death. Just to clarify, these 450M people ARE NOT TERRORISTS or potential terrorists, but people who think "it's right" to follow what the Quran says.

How many of these 450M can potentially take real action? Very very few I guess. But 450M people is A LOT.

The UK needs to infiltrate people within the british mosques and at the first sight of hate promotion they need to act fiercely, expelling these "hate promoters" without pity.

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Lol. I love it when people make this ridiculous argument. Its such a stupid conclusion.

Let say there is a terror cell in the UK consisting of 5 men.

There are three million (approx.) Muslims in the UK, more if you count kids.

5/3000000 = 0.000 0017%.

Now, how many of the 3 million do you believe are exposed to the 5 bad ones and know them particularly well? well, lets say these particular terrorists are popular guys, so 20.

20/2,999,995 = 0.000 06 % of muslims exposed to a terror cell.

Now, factor in the fact that the 5 bad ones will do everything they can to hide their intentions. they don't tell anyone they will kill people, nor do they broadcast it to the Muslim community. The chance of actually discovering genuine terrorists is proportional to their presence in the wider community. ie, 0.000 000 17%.

So, out of 3,000,000, you want 0.000 06% to help you find 0.000 0017%, with a 0.000 0017% chance of being successful?

If we assume they are able to hide their intentions from half of these 20 (which in turn, makes them very bad at their purpose, but lets assume they are popular but incompetent), that means there is at most, 10 people, in 2,999,995. Or, 0.000 003%.

So, these 0.000 003% are supposed to help find 0.000 0017%, with a 0.000 0017% success possibility?

If the british government, with thousands of analysts, can read every text message, scrutinise every mb of data, piggy-back every CCTV camera, listen in to every phone call, and observe thousands simultaneously, and they still cant find them, what chance does Amjad from the corner shop have?

Do you think muslims have a secret address book with the name and address of every terrorist in it, and theyre just stubbornly refusing to hand it over?

Do you think that all it takes is for an imam to stand up and say 'right lads, you've had your fun, but that's enough now, put down the pipe bomb and behave yourself', and overnight the problems will disappear?

I hear lots of this bullshit about 'oh, well they don't do anything about it'...what exactly do you want them to do about it? Find people that work incredibly hard not to be found, who look, act, and behave exactly the same as everyone else?

Or do you just want someone to blame, because you know they aren't in a position to defend themselves?
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