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Old 02.12.2016, 14:35
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

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Isn't this preciely what is mean when people speak of a systemic democracy deficit.

The vote could not have promised any of these things as the EU was not prepared to negotiate ahead of the Brexit vote, and is in fact not prepared to negotiate until after Article 50 has been invoked.

In an ideal world, there would have been negotiations ahead of the Brexit vote with one or several scenarios being put forward answering all thee questions and with the EU's assurance that they would agree to that.

There could have thus been an orderly discussion of the pros and cons of the different scenarios and a or series of votes taken.

By slamming the door on any such negotiations, the EU is effectively blocking any ordered and controlled path to a EU exit. So whereas they may claim that an exit is possible in principle, in practice there is no orderly and thought through process in place to permit an exit under known and understood conditions. Or indeed as the FMOP vote in Switzerland has shown, an orderly path to renegotiation.

The EU has thus made itself to an inflexible and undemocratic behemoth that does not offer its members any genuine alternative to further integration.
"The vote could not have promised " An election promise or campaign promise is a promise made to the public by a candidate or political party that are trying to win an election.
Election promises may be instrumental in getting an official elected to office.
Election promises are often abandoned once in office or prove to be impossible to achieve for some reason.

The problem May has is whatever she proposes some people will say "that is not what we expected" because the Leave campaign did not have clear set of promises that she can use as her foundation.

"there would have been negotiations ahead of the Brexit vote" There were, you forget that Cameron had these negotiations in February and obtained a deal. The voters rejected that deal!

"Or indeed as the FMOP vote in Switzerland has shown, an orderly path to renegotiation." There is/was no renegotiation; there is no proposal to change any bilateral treaty.
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