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Old 25.02.2018, 13:58
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Re: Considering to leave Switzerland

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Well here are the main problems:

1. Social life
Rejection, exclusion, isolation.

Below are some of the highlights of my last 6 consecutive interactions with local people. Just to give you an idea of what's going on.

Dude 1: So, how long are you here?
Me: Quite a few months. I still feel like a tourist, but maybe after some time I'll stop feeling that way.
Person 1: Well, regardless how do you feel, for me, you'll be always a tourist. *leaves me*
Me:
People are like this everywhere. If you move on to another country, you will likely find a similar attitude.

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Dude 2: In Switzerland, you're either accepted or not. One should be able to find this out in two weeks of arrival, but since you're here longer than this time you already know the answer.
*leaves me*
Sounds like a complete knobhead. Why does he think he can speak for everyone, and what's with the two weeks thing?

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Dude 3. I approached some dude and he didn't say anything. Instead he gave me some strange look followed by waiving with a paw, indicating to move away. It was worse than approaching spoiled woman.
Why did you approach him? Most people get a bit antsy if you are in their face for no reason. Even me as "a spoiled woman" would likely react if someone just approached me for no apparent reason.

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Dude 4. Then there was a guy, who jumped in front of me and started to stretch his face with hands in order to mimic my mug and make fun of it. And it wasn't a kid, it a was a young adult. I was horrified, because I've never experienced anything like this, especially from an adult male. I wanted to penalize him with a punch in the face, but I decided not to.
Sounds mentally deranged. Switzerland doesn't have a monopoly on nutters - believe me, I've been in Leeds on a Saturday night. They're everywhere.

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Dude 5: Where are you from?
After revealing where do I come from, the guy disappeared like a magician.
Puff of smoke, too?

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me: Can I have a cigarette?
Dude 6: You know, that we have a cigarette machines here? Can't you see them?
me thinking: "a-shole.". Then I moved away.
Maybe he didn't smoke. I think I would react the same but maybe use a bit more choice Anglo-saxon if someone was trying to bum cigarettes from me (I don't smoke). Why do you think people will just hand over cigs to you?

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At this point I got fed up and headed it home. On the way to home I've hit a group of Germans, the same guys that I've spoken with before. One of them, apparently drunk, saw me alone wandering around. He called me and laughed loud: "Hey John! Can you introduce us your invisible local friend? Ha-ha-ha-ha! Have you really thought that you would meet some locals here?! Dude, this is f-ckin Switzerland! We have warned you!"
Drunk people - ahhh, those sage people who think you should always take note of their solid and rational advice fuelled by a night on the piss..

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2. Dullness and boredom. I can't imagine australians moving here. Suicide mission.
There are quite a few Aussies here. Seem to do all right.

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3. Life style based around living to work and not working to live. I can't image greeks moving here. Sucide mission.

Long working hours. Leaving at 7, arriving at 7.
Your boss is taking the piss. Log your hours and make it up as days off. If he complains, find another job.

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Company not giving a damn about me. They called me in two days after I've sent them CV, but hired me after multiple of months, probably because they weren't able to find anything better, and at the same time cheaper. If I'd do a smallest mistake, I'd probably be fired. Was called "slav scheisse". Constantly listening to coworkers about how Germany and EU are bad. There were also some very cheesy moments, for example when we had a team-meeting and it was time to read an email with a list of Chinese names in it. Whole team started to make fun of Chinese names and mimicking their faces.

That's not how i would define a good working environment.
The recruitment process is slow for everyone, so not much to fret about there. Your work colleagues sound pretty low-brow. What kind of work is it? Are they all Swiss or is it a mix of nationalities?

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4. Rubbish weather. No sun, the mist, the fog. Very depressive.
Yup. Summer is ok, though. If you want sun in the winter, you have to take a trip into the mountains.



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I've been in other countries before. I was bullied, I was called scum, I was called out, got broken in the house, fought battles with most arrogant people on the Earth, been yelled at from randoms,... Experiences were very mixed but at the end of day, there was always something to find and I didn't feel that segregated in a society as I do in Switzerland. It's not that else it was perfect, but it wasn't that horrible as Switzerland is. Switzerland is just so tiring or something, it's hard to explain it really.
Which other countries did you live in?
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