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Old 08.08.2018, 12:21
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

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The only constant is change, and things are always changing. Sometimes a bit more and sometimes a bit less. But the change is there. We grow into old phobies and realize we don't approve of the way young people dress or the music they listen to, while forgetting that our parents and grandparents didn't approve much of what we did when we were that age. The world changes. We adapt. Sometimes it's the bad things we are happy we can wave goodbye to. Sometimes we must shed a tear as the good things go too. The solution is not a reactionary clinging onto the past and seeking to preserve things that are already dead. No matter how hard we try, the EU won't go back to being what it was under Schuhmann. Waxing nostalgia doesn't excuse us from facing the future.
This argument could quite rightly be used by either side of the fence. People desperate to go back to the good old days before the EU. Jumpers for goalposts, everything in feet and inches, no brown faces, British Made, Ruling the Waves. Specsavers must be doing a roaring trade in rosy-tinted retro-specs.

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We could right now be having a wonderful discussion. What sort of country do we want to be post Brexit? What sort of society do we want to be? Technically, everything could be up for discussion. Here is a once in a lifetime opportunity to re-carve our destiny. But instead there is just anger and tears and hate.
I think the anger is stemming from the fact that it is certainly NOT the Brexit which was originally touted and will almost certainly see the country much worse off for a large chunk of time. Whether it will get better after that is anybody's guess but there is a convincing argument that Brexit is not a good thing. Anything which is in such a dire and disorganised mess led by a team of incompetent, back-stabbing and power hungry politicians driven by self-interest cannot be trusted to produce a good result.

You say that "technically" everything could be up for discussion, which suggests a rudderless course. "Technically" in a non-technical discussion is the word used when straws are being clutched at. A desperate lunge for "it could be if everyone agrees with this".

"Tears and anger" are not to be sneered at when the reasons behind them are well-founded. In this case, they are more than well founded.
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