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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

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Hehe, you want something similar to Sweden, is it even culturally desirable? Will the British agree with so many and such a high taxation on property, income, goods, everything? Anyway, I don't think it's sustainable without a strong economy and collecting huge taxes from companies and population. How will that evolve in the absence of the deals with EU it's questionable but desirable, of course.
The NHS was actually created at a time that Britain was a much poorer place than it is today. If we could afford it then, we can afford it today.

The government at the time decided they wanted not just a safety net for the poor, but a quality service for everybody, regardless of income. This encompasses a philosophy that says, state support is not just there for the poor. This destigmatizes the service. If the NHS was only there for the poor, anybody going there would have that stigma. It's also a clever psychological trick. A person on middle income or above probably never gets as much back in terms of government service as they put money in. But because they get something back, they happily approve of the spending. This is the same reason the government pays for things like the opera, museums, restoring old castles, or making parks in rich areas of town etc that actually are more for the amusement of the rich.

And its in times like today that everybody is doing austerity, and austerity is often about going for the easy targets, the low hanging fruit. This means many projects that are not strictly necessarily for social reasons but that have emotional value will get cut. And this alienates sections of the population who are not poor and not uneducated but can, once their allegiance is lost, cause considerable trouble.

See rise in populism etc.
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