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Old 15.11.2018, 12:22
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

You conveniently miss the third option, which would have been to stay in the EU, actively engage in the democratic process there and try and improve things for everyone, rather sniping from the sidelines trying to bring in the institution down, when we should be one of the leading voices within. See for example old Nige moaning about the EU ruining the lives of British fishermen, when he was on that committee and attended something like 1 in 43 meetings of it.
Nige was (democratically elected) there for a reason: The majority of the UK public does not want to be part of a Federal Europe, and this was the reason people voted to leave.

The UK has tried reform from within and each and every time were told to go whistle. The only reform which ever gets accepted is that of deeper and closer integration. It's pure folly to imagine that this would ever change.
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