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Old 15.11.2018, 22:27
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

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We will never know now, however I doubt the situation would be the same now if the UK:
  • hadn't triggered Art 50 before contingency planning was finished
  • hadn't triggered Art 50 before having a coherent negotiation strategy and knowing precisely what the UK wanted
  • had made adequate no deal preparations
  • hadn't accepted the EU sequencing of negotiations
  • hadn't accepted the Irish backstop
Brexiteers couldn't wait for A50 to be triggered, even the 9-month preparatory phase was criticised as way too long. At the same time people pointing to the inadequate UK staff were dismissed as raising red herrings. As a result you got unfits like Davis and Raab in topmost positions.

The backstop is a sine qua non for any kind of deal, that's what it means to be small (Eire) but have lots of very strong supporters. The sequence of negotiations, preparation time, or people doing the negotiating, have exactly zero effect on that.

Coherence is irrelevant if it is simultaneously inacceptable for the counterparty. You know, like, wanting to be in the EEA without accepting the four freedoms and the ECJ's supremacy.

You're still in denial mode Loz. Even now. What's been bandied around and required from the UK governent amounts to squaring a circle, doesn't happen. Nor will it, as you just learned.
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