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Re: Swiss Marriage Visa : for Indian and Swiss citizen

LEVEL 5: Learning German in Bern
LEVEL 6: Getting job as Resident Doctor in Kanton Bern/ Swiss


I have combined above post as both are interlinked.

Steps to swiss medical Residency/ Specialisation

Step 1: Learning Swiss language upto B2.(below)
to be followed:
Step 2: Organising visa and accomodation.
Step 3: Registering onself into Swiss Med-Register & acquiring GL Number.
Step 4: Getting in contact with MEBEKO regarding Degree recognition.
Step 5: Getting a job as Intern/ Resident doctor.
Step 6: Getting into Doctorarbeit/ Thesis work for DR title.
Step 7: Preparing for Staatsexamen.
Step 8: Working further to complete remaining specialisation years to become a specialist.
Step 9: Preparing for Federal Specialist exam.
Step 10: Continuing futher medical education.

STEP 1: LEARNING THE LANGUAGE (German/ French/ Italian):
In switzerland, getting into medical residency/ Specialition program is quite difficult to impossible without required certain level of language competency.
Swiss official languages are only : German, French and Italian. ENGLISH IS NOT (one of the 4) SWISS NATIONAL LANGUAGE, NEITHER ARE SPECIALISATION COURSE HELD IN ENGLISH, Very RARELY patient prefer/ or demands for consultation to be held in english. These patients could be mostly foriegners or Tourists. I have met just 3 patients in Internal medicine and Psychiatry during last 2 years.
I had learn german and only well versed with processes or hospital in german area, particularly around Bern.

No matter how good you are in medicine; Swiss hospitals/ HOD/ Chefarzt won’t hire you without your language proficiency..!
  • Min.officially required language level: B2 based on common european framework of reference/ CEFR for EU languages
    The higher, one has the language competency, the better are chances of getting job as well as starting specialisation programme (logically ).
  • Where to learn:
 For those , who wanna start at their home country especially from Asian/ African/ American countries:
• Join a regular language school to learn at faster pace atleast upto B1. It would save your money and time in switzerland. It would a plus while finding a job as Intern/ Resident doctor.
• If possible, another alternative would be : hire a hourly based private Goethe licensed tutor for A1-A2 levels >> then join language schools for B1 (+/- B2) level. It would be more convinient if you are working at emergency dept. in your native country. I did this option which was very convinient for me while I was working then too and at ultra fast paced way for basics. Pace could vary depending on mainly individual self study etc.
 For those, who are already in Bern. There are many languages school/ organisation to help out:
Chargeable courses at: Alemania, Flying teachers, Benedict, inlingua, Migros Klubschule etc. For ex : I joined Alemania for B2 and C1 levels. Details: https://www.alemania.ch/deutschkurs
Non-chargeable Organisation: (extensive list from regional Integration centre: Kompetenzzentrum Integration Bern, Effingerstrasse 33, 3008 Bern)
- Denkmal at Lagerweg 12, 3013 Bern: (advantage: meet people from diverse linguatic backgrounds, good way to practice your own teaching skills too; disadvantage: slow paced, irregular time as well as classes)
- Meet up Bern: Register > meet at an organised Restaurant & time ; every Thursday > just spoken skill to practice. Usually few helping swiss or german volunters are almost always there to rectify the mistakes.
(advantage : person of any level are welcomed and mostly talk informally about daily life.)
  • Resources to learn from:
 I followed the Goethe prescribed books & materials from language schools in India. Later on Telc precribed study n workbooks for B2 & C1 level at Alemania.
 After passing B1 level, gradually & progressively started reading newspaper (NZZ, Tagesanzieger, Der Bild, Spiegel, Suddeutsche Zeitung); all on a common android app.
 Listened with written Transcript „Deutsche Welle: Langsam gesprochene Nachrichten“. For eg:
https://www.dw.com/de/deutsch-lernen/nachrichten/s-8030
Android apps:
here is a list of tried Apps, which probably might help you too:

1. Eng - ger Dictionary:
dict.cc dictionary (by Paul hemetsberger) or Duden

2. Vocabulary for beginners:
> Duolingo: learn languages free (by Duolingo)
> Learn German vocabulary free {by language course S.L.}
> Learn German vocabulary - 6000 words (by fun learn easy)

3. Total grammar explained in short n easy way:
German grammar (by Global Inc.} (Explained in English)

4. For beginners, according to grammar topic:
* German verb conjugator (by Ian Tipton)
* German verbs (conjugation) {by Appicenter LLC}
* German gender quiz (for all nouns) {by Nicola tesser}
* German adjective declension {by Nicola tesser}
* German verb -prepositions quiz (fixed combinations) {by Nicola tesser}

5. small sentences conversational apps:
* Babbel (subscription based)
* Duolingua german (non chargeable)

6. Newspapers:
> DW – 5 small compiled breaking world news { by Deutsche Welle} (Slow spoken news with its transcripts)
> world Newspapers { by bazimo} (select any from DACh eg: Bild, Spiegel, Süddeutsche Zeitung, NZZ)

7. Self assesment according to each level:
*Learn Deutsch DeutschAkademie (by DeutschAkademie....)

 Websites
1. Grammar in details : EN « » DE interchangeable
www.canoo.net

2. Learning material/ worksheets, according to grammatical topics*_ ger
www.nthuleen.com/teach.html

3. Grammar topics: consice & compact explained:*_ eng« »ger
www.deutschseite.de/inhalt.html

4. Newspapers:
> Deutsche Welle – 5 small compiled breaking world news {by Deutsche Welle} (Slow spoken news with its transcripts)
https://www.dw.com/de/23022019-langsam-gesprochene-nachrichten/a-47652122



PS: Special thanks to Cugeno from the link below; he helped me understand the initial process in detail.
Link: https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-visas-government/150624-medical-residency-switzerland.html#post2369136
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