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Old 06.08.2019, 14:32
dexterix dexterix is offline
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What do you think Vitamin B is? I suspect you are using the wrong word...
Vitamin B is like a referral or becoming a protegee or being favored in one way or another. Using connections and social network to get jobs or joining a particular company.

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Not in English.

Tom
It is used only in the local context to mean connections. Of course vitamin B in English means absolutely something different

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It is used correctly. Vitamin B helps you to find job openings earlier than advertised (also applies to apartments). You can get a job that you have no opportunity to apply for. Otherwise I doubt it will help you much in securing a job in a big company as a nobody fresh from school. "Vitamin A" as in perfect straight A grades is more important. But those guys most often know some other guys and so on...

A friend of mine did. But during the interview he learned that the position had to be filled twice. Immediately called a fellow graduate that he should apply as well, pointed out what was need in the motivation letter. The position was an expat stint in South Korea were the second student had an love interest. They are now married with children.
Was this here in Switzerland or S. Korea?

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Build your network. Utilise every single contact you made during your studies here. Research all your lecturers, professors, students from your group, researchers in the faculty, guest lecturers. See who knows whom, who has collaborated with whom in which projects. Keep expanding and updating your own records of this network and the many connections between those people.

Invite some of those on your level out for lunch, one at a time, and ask them how they're faring and what they've been doing, and who they've met, since graduation.

Before you meet them, try to research their networks, too (schools, professions of parents or siblings, business interests, etc.) ... depending on what they've chosen to make public online.

For those senior to you, ask them if you may please have an appointment to come and ask them for some advice. If they agree to see you, make sure you've read up about their work before you get there. Take along your cv. Tell them what interests you (and if true why there's a connection to their work) and what you've been doing to try to find employment. Don't complain, but simply ask for suggestions of how you could better approach things to find employment.

After a few weeks, write to thank them for having taken the time to see you. Mention any part of their advice which you have already implemented.

When you do get a job, write again to let them know and to thank them for their suggestions when you visited them.

Bit by bit, you'll be growing your own Vitamin B.

And: if you don't already have a good command of German, then my advice is learn German, learn German, learn German. Even if a company's business language has been defined as English, the casual conversations in a coffee break can be so much more useful if you understand the locals.
Many thanks for the advice. But most of my former classmates are either still looking for a job or into sectors not directly related to the management consulting sector. Of course many others have either inherited their family businesses or doing something different.

Meeting the real guys that work in this field is also difficult because they either will want to mingle just with guys of their own leaque or industry events to which you like an outsider you hardly get access. I remember even inviting a some on Linkedin whom i thought could be of help and after visiting my profile they never even replied to the request. Wow really? if i was a director in a big company would this happen?

Learning german is a great idea and i have been doing so but usually costs and without a source of income and fresh out of school paying for such is usually rather expensive.

But i believe in luck and will keep the spirits high as I continue to look and do the necessary stuffs to land even an internship in any of the big 4.

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No.

How many people do you think will easily get a job in a Big 4 without knowing anyone, in Switzerland or anywhere else in the world? Jup. Very few. It's highly competitive to begin with (for reasons I may never understand), so unless you a) have a huge amount of luck, b) have something that makes you stand out from the pack or c) jep, now someone to open the first door for you, then yes, it is difficult. Of course you can now keep trying or tell yourself beggars can't be choosers and try to find a job somewhere else that could eventually serve as a stepping stone into one of the Big 4s, if that's where you want to be.
Well I used to think the same but i came across a few interns from Germany who were hired to come here for an internship in one of the big 4's. I also saw a girl who was offered a direct role in 2 of the firms she applied to and she had the delima to choose.

Why would they hire people from other countries while graduates from local universities are available and also as competent as the others from Germany, Austria or so? While their profiles might stand out as well. But whatever be the case I believe graduates from local universities should also stand a chance.

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