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Old 21.03.2008, 02:05
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Re: Mourning the loss of a friend, a leader, an innovator, a genuinely nice guy

Bloody Hell!

I can't believe this news. I've only today popped in after a while away and had posted a couple of times before coming across this thread.

I'm shocked to the core.

I spent a year working in Switzerland and still talk fondly of how much I enjoyed my time. A major major part of the fondness I had centered around the existence of this forum. It was and remains to this day the best forum I have ever known.

God bless you Mark. I don't think I ever expressed the gratitude to you I had in my heart. I don't know why I didn't. What was keeping me? I don't believe we ever actually met, but seeing the news of your death bought to mind those feelings of regret that I'd usually associate with close friends or much loved relatives.

I hope you're in a better place and once again laying down the sort of foundations that others, like me, will find so useful when they finally get there too. I'll be looking out for you when my time comes.

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Old 21.03.2008, 19:41
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Re: Mourning the loss of a friend, a leader, an innovator, a genuinely nice guy

I find the news such a shock I can't think of words worthy of the real Mark I never knew personally, nor the wise, fair and generous Mark I had come to admire on the forum.
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Re: Mourning the loss of a friend, a leader, an innovator, a genuinely nice guy

What a thread to de-lurk and make your first post in.....

I've been dipping into the site for a little while, one of my long-term goals was to leave the UK and Switzerland was pretty much the top destination.

I've learned a lot from peoples posts here, all sorts of great background info that helps you gain a sense of what to expect when you up your life from one part of the globe to another. How do you hit the ground running? What are the little local tips and tricks? What helps you fit in quicker?

A few names stand out in their post frequency, knowledge and humor - Mark was one of the top ones.

At the start of the month I finally realised my ambition and moved to Zürich - a move made so much easier by the people Mark gathered here on the forum.

Having moved to Munich from the UK nearly 10 years ago, before the Interweb was as popular, It really does show the value to the wider community sites like this bring.

Cheers Mark, thanks for your efforts in making the site what it is. My thoughts go out to your family and friends.

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Re: Mourning the loss of a friend, a leader, an innovator, a genuinely nice guy

I have just joined EF and I have found very useful,and got information from Mark's previous posts. I am so sorry, i hope his place will be heaven,he will be in peace. i just want to say "Thank you Mark even i do not know you you were very good person, try to help people who needs help.




[In Memoriam: Mark Fyvie (1972-2008)



This forum was a significant part of Mark's life and we have thus modified his profile to reflect the role that he has played in many lives in Switzerland; he has touched us all.

Mark summed his ideas up perfectly here; we should all re-read this and thank Mark for the effect he has had on all of our lives.



We believe that it would be a suitable gesture to enable Mark's reputation counter and I point you to this post where Mark asks you how you found the forum.

You can make a significant gesture to what Mark created by clicking on the icon and giving him some reputation. We all know that he deserves it.

Any more news will be posted here; our thoughts are with his fiancée, his family and his friends. We were all his friends.

Goodbye Mark - Rest in Peace


*Please note: replies to this thread should only be tributes to Mark*
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I never met Mark, but I do know I cherish the fruits of his efforts through this forum. God has blessed us all by letting us know you Mark for a brief walk through this life. May we meet again in the Kingdom of Heaven, until then thank you Mark and rest in peace.

To the family of Mark, my condolences. Stay strong and have faith that you shall meet each other again, in Jesus' name, amen.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Peace
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Re: Mourning the loss of a friend, a leader, an innovator, a genuinely nice guy

Eventhough I don't know Mark but I do appreciate what he has done. My deepest condolence to his partner, friends and family. RIP

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Hi! EF?

First ,condolence to Mr.Nice guy.second hello to all the staff of EF and thanks for being here.



YOURS TRULY,
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Old 24.03.2008, 18:08
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Re: Mourning the loss of a friend, a leader, an innovator, a genuinely nice guy

Met Mark briefly at one of the events. Very sad to hear this, my deepest condolences to his family and his fiance.
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Re: Mourning the loss of a friend, a leader, an innovator, a genuinely nice guy

My sincere condolences to Lynn. I cannot imagine what you must be going through, or how much your life will now be altered by losing Mark, losing your life partner so young. Stay strong, Lynn. Cry or be angry when you need to. Keep your friends around you. A lot of people are thinking of you now. You can do this. One step at a time.

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Re: Mourning the loss of a friend, a leader, an innovator, a genuinely nice guy

Very sad. My condolences to the family and all those who knew Mark personally.
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Old 25.03.2008, 11:03
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Re: Mourning the loss of a friend, a leader, an innovator, a genuinely nice guy

At first, I didn't want to intrude here because I'm a newbie and not even an expat. But I couldn't help myself. I have read several of Mark's posts, they were always helpful, intelligent, unbiased and you could feel his warm emotions behind them. I'm immensely grateful for what he did for all of us and... well, full of admiration for a person I'm really sad I never got the chance to get to know. Thank you Mark and God bless you.
My heartfelt condolences to the familiy and all his friends.
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Re: Mourning the loss of a friend, a leader, an innovator, a genuinely nice guy

May this honorable man rest in peace...
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Old 25.03.2008, 23:02
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Re: Mourning the loss of a friend, a leader, an innovator, a genuinely nice guy

I've been meaning to post this up for a while, but I've been a little pre-occupied with everything else. This was the eulogy that I read to him before he was cremated, I thought I should share this in here with the rest of you. As you will see, there is much in there that comes from the community here.

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Mark.

You were my brother, my friend, my confidant, my co-conspirator. I often looked to you for help and you always gave it. We shared and competed with many projects. Your legacy is daunting for the short space you were here you have deeply touched so many lives.

When I first heard about your cave diving, your rescue missions and the danger of the exploration, I expressed worry and concern and you assured me with your meticulous preparation and care, that you would not be one of the fatalities.

Since learning of your death, I have struggled with anger towards your arrogance and insistence on cave diving and exploration, despite the concern of others. I now realise that you died doing what you loved and not without great achievement.

You did achieve much in your short time, which I will mention later, but before then I‘ll express my regret that I never got to see the metamorphosis that was imminent. In the last few months, you began to display a definite shift and change in your life outlook. You began to feel comfortable and eager to move your life into the next step, having completed so thoroughly and commendably the first part. I looked forward to sharing moments with you in your married life and in the joys of children.

You revealed your soft spot for the love of Lynn and your recent romantic expression, not to mention a little dog who although you protested about getting, you became quickly besotted with. You are sorely missed by your fledgling family unit, as well as your greater family and friends.
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However, rather than express the sorrow and deep regret I feel, I would rather focus on the many amazing things you did in your recent years.

You have touched the lives of countless people all over the world, be it in your career and academic achievements, your diving, the communities you ran, your photography, or your software projects.

You achieved the highest of accolades in the network engineering field, obtaining the CCIE qualification in a short time and joining the elite class in your field, of which only a limited number exist worldwide. You were well respected for your knowledge and skills and will be sorely missed by those who obtained your services.

You gained qualifications in almost every available field of scuba diving expertise and tirelessly passed on your knowledge, skills and experience to countless others.

The code you wrote for your digital online photo albums is now used and appreciated by tens of thousands of people to whom you donated it for no cost. Also the campaign you attached to it for other Open Source Software, Firefox, has ranked you personally as the 33rd highest contributor in the world, well up there with the other web greats, a rare feat for an individual.

Your photography is well regarded and respected, particularly your underwater portfolio which is highly searched, referenced and linked in the internet and photographic communities. Your work lives on, enjoyed by many for a long time.

Your vision of an English speaking community for Switzerland, bore fruit. It now connects over 13,000 people, an unthinkable success which no commercial enterprise could have duplicated with the same efficiency and elegance which you achieved with nothing more than your own tireless effort and savvy.

Mark, your achievements speak for themselves. You have done far more in your short lifetime than 2 or 3 people may take their entire lifetimes to do. Your tireless dedication and single-mindedness has been an inspiration to many who have followed your work, or come into contact with you personally, or through communities you set up. You will be missed and will not be forgotten.


Now…

I’d like to share some of the thoughts sent by members of your English Forum Community, of which there have been over 250 submissions over the last few days. The words offered have been too numerous and full of praise to list here, but I have extracted some the adjectives and phrases from these posts, which clearly show the high regard everyone had for you. These certainly echo my feelings as well:

“The Architect”; leader; innovator; irreplaceable; true gent; selfless; rare; genuine; enthusiasm; curiosity; generous; incredible; friend; strong heart and mind; no ordinary guy; great guy; touched a lot of lives; cared for the lives of other people; inspiration; passionate; free spirit; loyal; energetic; committed; “rock of a man”; intelligent; meticulous; reliable; devoted; unique; true; radically honest; dedicated, incredible; rare jewel; special; kind; knowledgeable; sardonic humour; teacher; confident; convinced of his own convictions; dreamer; perseverant; perfectionist; unselfish; stubborn; entrepreneur; freethinker; honourable; mentor; guide; buffer; intensity; bloody-minded; admirable determination; explorer; adventurer; amazing influence; balanced; calm; strong-minded; immense patience and humour; funny; altruistic; wise; respect.

Additionally, I’d like to share some lines written by another long-time friend.

“Mark set a standard of expectation that approached the unobtainable, but although I sometimes fell well short of his bar, I can honestly say that he never did.” “Perhaps his heart gave out as there was simply nothing left for him to give.”
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Finally, I’d like to read a poem which was also posted by one of his community, though it also has additional connections with Lynn’s family. It was written by a soldier in the Iraq War and Mark was quite moved by it, so I think it will be fitting to end Mark’s eulogy with this:

Do not stand at my grave and weep
I am not there, I do not sleep.

I am a thousand winds that blow.
I am the diamond glint on snow.
I am the sunlight on ripened grain.
I am the gentle Autumn rain.

When you wake in the morning hush,
I am the swift, uplifting rush
Of quiet birds in circling flight.
I am the soft starlight at night.

Do not stand at my grave and weep.
I am not there, I do not sleep.
Do not stand at my grave and cry
I am not there, I did not die.





We all love you Mark, we will miss you dearly.
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Old 25.03.2008, 23:14
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Re: Mourning the loss of a friend, a leader, an innovator, a genuinely nice guy

Robert, thank you so much for sharing that with us.
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Re: Mourning the loss of a friend, a leader, an innovator, a genuinely nice guy

What a tragedy
I got so sad to read this.
I send my regrets to his friends and family.
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Old 26.03.2008, 00:28
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Re: Mourning the loss of a friend, a leader, an innovator, a genuinely nice guy

Thank you very much, Robert.

Also, thank you to all those who knew Mark from elsewhere and joined the forum to condole. You helped me to get a better picture of our forum founder's personality and interests.
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Re: Mourning the loss of a friend, a leader, an innovator, a genuinely nice guy

Mark

I don't normally share my personal thoughts on a open public forum, but for you I will make my first exception.

Thank you for setting up this web site and by all accounts being such a good person.

Thanks to your time and attention to detail, this site continues to be successful. Thanks for the replies which you sent me when I had a few questions about this and that.

It is because of you that I have got to meet some very nice people in Switzerland. I'm sorry that I never got to meet you.

Many of us will continue to remember you for a long time to come, and the world is a worse off place without you.

I think that the good place you are in now, is lucky to have you among them.

May you rest in peace.


Please allow me to share the lyrics of the favourite single of John Peel, whose passing, like yours also greatly moved me:


Teenage Kicks by the The Undertones
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Are teenage dreams so hard to beat
Everytime she walks down the street
Another girl in the neighbourhood
Wish she was mine, she looks so good

I wanna hold her wanna hold her tight
Get teenage kicks right through the night

I'm gonna call her on the telephone
Have her over cos i'm all alone
I need exitement oh i need it bad
And its the best, i've ever had

I wanna hold her wanna hold her tight
Get teenage kicks right through the night

I wanna hold her wanna hold her tight
Get teenage kicks right through the night

The song on youtube



John Peel and the history of the band and song

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Re: Mourning the loss of a friend, a leader, an innovator, a genuinely nice guy

Well, seeing as we are posting lyrics, I may as well post up some of the music that I've been listening to that has moved me and is also quite relevant to the EF community.

When I heard the news, I had to fly over without any preparation time and I had some music with me which had been randomly accumulated over time. It's funny how music works, but it really touches nerves. I'd heard these songs a thousand times, but new meaning and recognition is found in a new perspective and a new interpretation. One of the songs that really moved me was by Jimmy Eat World, called "Hear You Me". I think this one probably applies to every EF member who didn't know Switzerland and found this forum a place to start and get comfortable. Here are some of the lyrics;

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There's no one in town I know
You gave us some place to go.
I never said thank you for that.
I thought I might get one more chance.
What would you think of me now,
so lucky, so strong, so proud?
I never said thank you for that,
now I'll never have a chance.
May angels lead you in....

And if you were with me tonight,
I'd sing to you just one more time.
A song for a heart so big,
god wouldn't let it live.
I've searched the song on the net and I found a you tube video for it, but it is from a thoroughly naff movie and cheapens the message of the song, so I won't post the link, but if you do search it, just listen to the audio.

Also another one that reminds me of his EF legacy and can apply to expats is by Mattafix, Big City Life.

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Don't you wanna know me?
Be a friend of mine.
I'll share some wisdom with you.
Don't you ever get lonely,
From time to time
Don't let the system get you down....

The Linguist across the seas and the oceans,
A permanent Itinerant is what I've chosen.
I find myself in Big City prison, arisen from the vision of man kind.
Designed, to keep me discreetly neatly in the corner.
I think Mark really did reach out and try to be a friend of everyone pushed down or marginalised by "the system". He was a permanent itinerant, learning the language of wherever he wanted to be and then helping others to do the same.

Lastly, another song that reminds me of him is by Air - Alone in Tokyo. This one I will link in here with the video:



This one is too subjective and personal to really describe here (particularly as it is purely instrumental). Mark was a very conscientious student of Japanese language and culture. He was fascinated by many aspects of it and had intended at one time to move to Japan, just as he had to London, to Germany and to Switzerland many years earlier. The movie Lost in Translation was one of the few movies that both he and I were really impressed by (we often had very different tastes).
I think that again this song has resonance for the EF community as the movie it was used in speaks to anyone living within a new language and culture and feeling alienated by it.
I will be seeing Air playing live in Sydney in a couple of weeks and I will always be reminded of Mark with this song.
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Re: Mourning the loss of a friend, a leader, an innovator, a genuinely nice guy

I confess that I haven't read thoroughly through all this thread, so I apologise if this has been stated before, but I was really saddened to find this on his own website which I found to be particularly poignant....

http://www.fyvie.net/wedding/

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Dear friends,
On September 6, 2008 we will marry in Venice. For those of you who will share our special day with us, we have put together some information to assist you. As more information becomes available, we will update these pages.
Please check back periodically, or at least shortly before the wedding, for updated or important information.
We hope that you will find these pages informative and helpful and trust that if you require any other assistance or information concerning our forthcoming wedding that you will not hesitate to get in touch with either of us.
We look forward to sharing our happy day with all of you.
Lynn & Mark


If this is not appropriate can I apologise and ask that my post be removed accordingly? But without having met the man, I just find it incredibly sad that he never lived to days that both he and Lynn were obviously looking forward to.

Lynn, you are in my thoughts and prayers.
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Re: Mourning the loss of a friend, a leader, an innovator, a genuinely nice guy

To Lynn & Mark's family,

I met Lynn & Mark while they were living in Cape Town, SA. I didn't know him as well as I knew Lynn. Lynn was my Pilates training partner in several classes, and through her, I met Mark. He was bright, curious and very detailed and enthusiastic about everything I heard him talk about. From how the desk in his office was set up to conquering all sorts of computer stuff that I could never follow properly... to his diving pursuits - it didn't matter he was 110% into whatever it was. They also introduced me to the wonderful mussel pot... which I still love to talk about but have never been able to replicate.

I recall enjoying one particular evening at their place with a superb storm sweeping toward the seaboard... Mark seemed to make sure everything was in place for him to get the most out of life - that included their flat having a great view for their time in Cape Town. I admired this outlook and zest for life.

I'm sorry I was unable to be at Ginnie Springs for his memorial here in Florida, as I am also a fellow cave diver. Lynn, although we've lost contact in the last while, my thoughts are with you now as they frequently have been over the years.

Lynn, I have always remarked to people when discussing our unique adventures in Pilates training in SA... on how strong, kind, intelligent and dedicated you were when I met you and had the privilege of training with you at Equilibrium. I know these incredible traits you possess will serve you well during this time of terrible loss.

My heart goes out to you and your families. Rest in peace, Mark.

With love from the US -

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