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Update regarding the forum

Hi everyone,

We have now reopened the forum. During the time the forum was closed, we had to analyze the atmosphere of the forum and understand how we can improve this going forward.

Firstly, we have decided to mix up our moderation and spam deputies teams, this allows us a fresh start on the forum. We understand how hard the moderation team works, especially when you've been doing it for a long time; however, we think sometimes it's good to start fresh, allowing us to bring a new lease of life to the forum. We would like to thank our previous moderators for their cooperation.

As we reopen the forum, we want to make sure this is a place for everyone. We won't tolerate any bullying, false information, conspiracy theories, homophobic remarks, sexist remarks and to be honest the list goes on. But as a member of this forum, you should understand the things that can be offensive to others. Just to be clear we will have a zero-tolerance on these matters. We would like to remind users that any posts that descend into personal attacks will be deleted.

During the course of the coming weeks/months, we will be adding new moderators to the team to make sure we have a fair balance across the board.

I am happy to welcome everyone back, take care and be kind.

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Old 23.09.2021, 11:03
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Re: Update regarding the forum

I would like to thank thelocal for showing concern over the state of the forum and taking direct action to clean things up and make the changes that they saw fit to make based on their assessment of what they read, which was clearly enough to cause them a lot of concern.

Here's hoping that the forum will take a new and calmer direction and I count myself among the members that should take this intervention as an opportunity to reset the tone to something more productive. In combination with a fresh and more balanced moderating team, the new zero tolerance for fake news, conspiracy theories and anti-scientific misinformation about serious topics should go a long way to reducing the reactivity of people when they previously read such things.

Thanks MichaelHarold and thelocal, there are many people that will appreciate what you have done and I hope you take more of an interest in the smooth running of the forum going forward.
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Old 23.09.2021, 11:05
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But as a member of this forum, you should understand the things that can be offensive to others.
I hope the mods are sensible enforcing this one.
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I hope the mods are sensible enforcing this one.
I will believe it when I see it.
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Welcome back everyone
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Re: Update regarding the forum

For those wondering:
https://www.englishforum.ch/showgroups.php <--- List of mods, spam deputies etc.
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https://www.englishforum.ch/showgroups.php <--- List of mods, spam deputies etc.
Is that less mods, more spam deputies?
The mod list looks ok to me.
Long may they prosper, well at least to the next GoT episode.

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Is that less mods, more spam deputies?
The mod list looks ok to me.
Long may the prosper, well at least to the next GoT episode.
Less and less for both, there were previously spam mods who didn't even know they had the role.
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Old 23.09.2021, 11:17
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So hold on, the forum was closed, the atmosphere was analyzed ? Cool, great.

Doesn't look like the moderators were mixed up to allow a fresh start? It's the same list as before with a couple of missing, no?

It's the same content as before with the same rules as before with less moderators? Or something.

I look forward to the new lease of life too
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I hope the mods are sensible enforcing this one.
I think we all know exactly how this will go.
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Re: Update regarding the forum

To be honest I don't really recognise a lot of the comments in Michael Harolds post above. Of course there has been some personal attacks, as in any forum, of course that's not ok and needs to be cleaned up.

But the idea this is a repository for false information and conspiracy theories I would flatly deny, as someone who is both a pharmaceutical chemist by training and someone who enthusiastically got the vaccine. I'm really REALLY disappointed in the local for believing everything said on Reddit. It simply isn't true, in my opinion.

I've seen things I disagree with, from both directions, but I've not seen anyone say this is George Soros, Bill Gateses doing. I've seen nothing about 5G. I've seen nothing about the new world order. I've seen nothing about metal / magnetic / nanorobots in the vaccine. I could go on.

Shame on you the local. Reading Reddit without actually doing your homework and reading what was said. Especially as journalists. You made your decision in 24

Most of all shame on you for axing someone new who did his best and tried to be non partisan and friendly.

We deserve better than you as owners. We really do.

That off my chest I will continue to try and be pleasant to everyone, no matter their viewpoint. Live and let live.

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Less and less for both, there were previously spam mods who didn't even know they had the role.
I'm not sure what the criteria was for removing them, but I'm no longer a spam deputy and I've been (mostly) playing nicely with others.

Having said that, I haven't reported spam in ages, because I haven't seen any spam in ages.
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To be honest I don't really recognise a lot of the comments in Michael Harolds post above. Of course there has been some personal attacks, as in any forum, of course that's not ok and needs to be cleaned up.

But the idea this is a repository for false information and conspiracy theories I would flatly deny, as someone who is both a pharmaceutical chemist by training and someone who enthusiastically got the vaccine. I'm really REALLY disappointed in the local for believing everything said on Reddit. It simply isn't true, in my opinion.

I've seen things I disagree with, from both directions, but I've not seen anyone say this is George Soros, Bill Gateses doing. I've seen nothing about 5G. I've seen nothing about the new world order. I've seen nothing about metal / magnetic / nanorobots in the vaccine. I could go on.

Shame on you. Reading Reddit without actually doing your homework and reading what was said.
They closed the forum for an entire week to take the time to read and assess it, so I think it is reasonable to assume that they were able to make their own minds up about what they saw and didn't just 'believe what they read on Reddit'.
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Old 23.09.2021, 11:29
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...but I've not seen anyone say this is George Soros, Bill Gateses doing. I've seen nothing about 5G.
There aren't many, but there ARE some. Just a few, luckily.
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There aren't many, but there ARE some. Just a few, luckily.
There might be de minimis - I've noticed very little to zero.
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Fully agree with you HickvonFrick (his entire post is nonsense tbh) but in the end its their forum and they can do whatever arbitrary things with it as they want. Not surprising that a faceless corporation goes with the riskfree approach (to them) and they seem hardly interested anyway.

The only thing you can do with your opinion is scale back your usage of and/or activity on his forum accordingly.
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I wish the whole team good luck with moderating and clearing the forum, I do hope it will improve with time.

A lot depends on the regular users too.
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Old 23.09.2021, 11:36
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Feels good to be back on the EF. Last couple of post-less days felt like living in a limbo.

(Just testing if I’m still enabled and legible to post)
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I can refer you to a good number of posts from a certain member who at least suggested magnetic vaccines, some form of new world order etc., of course always wrapped into the "concerned citizen" tone.

I believe FMF's idea of "tolerance" was of good intention, but at the end turned out to be close to a complete lack of moderation. This is how the Covid threat got out of hand, Covid spread into all sort of other threads and contaminated the entire forum. The cherry on the top for me was the obviously biased banning of some members a few weeks ago, while others could go on to spread their nonsense without any moderation.

Whether this will become better, we will see.
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Fully agree with you HickvonFrick (his entire post is nonsense tbh) but in the end its their forum and they can do whatever arbitrary things with it as they want. Not surprising that a faceless corporation goes with the riskfree approach (to them) and they seem hardly interested anyway.

The only thing you can do with your opinion is scale back your usage of and/or activity on his forum accordingly.
I agree. People come here for the good discussions. This is what builds traffic. And a good discussion needs to have space to get a bit controversial. And then when questions are asked on other threads there are people here to answer them.

If you take away people's reason for being here, you are left with lists of links from The Hill.

If The Local believes that is how they want to engage the community, then good luck with it.
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