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Angel Investors !!!

It is a very general concept world over that,
If USA has arms,
China has army,
Russia has secrets,
Japan has tech,
France has fashion,
Germans have machinery,
Then its the Swiss who have the money !!!!!!....

Banking being the largest industry in the CH substantiates the concept very well.However not every Swiss.......tom,dick or harry are equipped with it.There are many common folks like me too with big dreams or no dreams at all and plenty of reasons to grieve.......

Okay,if you have had enough of fun,then lets get down to business.

I know it is very much possible in a country like Switzerland that there are people with lots of money and nothing to complain about on earth.These people often feel that(I hope so ) helping someone realise their own dreams with financial resources is a charity...........known to me as Angel Investors,I am looking for such people and acquaintances,got the tech,plan and idea chalked but what is lacking is the investment.So if any such investor who has a lot to spare and is almost angel like in pulling industrial miracles........please Sir,respond to my post.

Right now my condition is like a Supercar with all things good in it but without a single drop of fuel,
or like a mordern spaceship without adequate number of LOX containers to go to moon.

Hence I am looking for Angel Investors,with whom I can share my idea and use their insight to get going.

Thank you for your time.

PS.If my post causes feeling of resentment in anyone then I apologize heartily......
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please Sir,respond to my post.
Since you called my name so here I am posting reply to you. Tell me how many angels you need from this angel investor.
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Old 29.12.2010, 16:38
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Re: Angel Investors !!!

Do you have a business plan yet?
can you shed some light on the industry sector?
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All of this info can do wonders to attract VC investors and their competences....

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Re: Angel Investors !!!

I believe you would'nt want to share the details, incase someone steals it and starts on their own minus you.

There should be some Business Forum (not internet one) in the canton/city where you are. Try to get their membership and meet people there. You will have a mugh higher chance of finding the right person.

Be careful with sharing your idea.

Do you have enough funds to make a prototype and get it patented, if possible? Maybe then go out and sell the commercial/industrial rights to the highest bidder?
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Tell me how many angels you need from this angel investor.
well thats confusing.........,honestly I have no idea what you are referring to as angels.

I hereby provide a little more information,that may help :

The country of my Birth and residence-India,is a vast economy.........rather a developing economy but the backbone of this economy is ............guess what ???

Agro-based Industry.

The biggest industry in my country right now is definitely the agriculture,so many sides to it.........seeds,crops,irrigation,ploughing, fertilizer, manures,pesticides,insecticides..........forever in demand............yes maybe even more than the whole Health-care industry of entire CH....only but disorganized.

There is no single industrial unit that operates in this industry at corporate levels,most are satisfied with very marginal proprietary levels.Most probable reason being lack of vision to developed into being an agro-based industrial giant.

My country with its gifted bio-diversity promises ample flora and fauna at ample quantity with minimum purchase price rates.So my basic vision is to create a Plant Biotech giant out of this evergreen grass root industry.

How ??? Well a moderate beginning,
1.Organic Manures-the best way with minimum relative investment of raw materials and infrastructure to get going.Introducing organic manures to local farmers at competitive price but with finesse incites trust of the market on the new company.........this is an important step as it helps garner the name and goodwill in the market.Then starting from here,supplying the product through the length and breadth of country gains the much needed momentum to the business.The said investment gives rise to higher capital ready to go for the second stage.

2.Biofertilisers-Well this is relatively expensive,afterall its a second stage to development As far as my techno faculties speaks(I am a biotech diploma),it requires a Plant.........an industrial plant to carry off.
1.5acres of land along with a TPA plant is a minimum to effectively produce organic fertilisers of the desired kind..................as usual,the first product picks up some daring clients from the already prepared market to use it in their fields...........again,an attempt which succeeds as it is recognized throughout the length and breadth of the country.This maybe easy to speak but takes time as it generates revenues and business.Stage 2 complete,hoping onto stage 3 (I call it nitro boost stage )

3.Industrial entity(hmm): Second plant and third plant,okay successful business providing more scope to invest,buying off the shelf some ill running plants concerned with biofertlisers in some other country...........well a big dream to be concluded after careful analysis..........such things boosts the prospects.

4.Reaching the Dream:well with enough money that I earned ,I slowly expand my base to health care industry and buy some well to do Pharma corp in the CH .........beginning of the journey into my country of dreams.With time and experience,good business acumen has been incubated slowly turning into a Biotech giant from once - a small time common folk.

All things said are easier than done,but these are very basic aspects of my ideas...............well I just detailed a Bugatti Veyron Supercar with W16 engine and 1000 horse powers a dream for every car enthusiasts,but that it drinks fuel at an alarming rate and costs a fortune to common folks is the rest of the story.

Now the rest of my idea I like to develop with insight and the miracle of the Angel Investor.........

Umm,any takers ???,well people may laugh off at me for being one dreamy youth.

Thank you for sharing my thread
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I believe you would'nt want to share the details, incase someone steals it and starts on their own minus you.

There should be some Business Forum (not internet one) in the canton/city where you are. Try to get their membership and meet people there. You will have a mugh higher chance of finding the right person.

Be careful with sharing your idea.

Do you have enough funds to make a prototype and get it patented, if possible? Maybe then go out and sell the commercial/industrial rights to the highest bidder?
Well I do believe I have a lot of Hard luck,
first of all my plans call for an overseas investment,
second I have already put up the schematics of my plan...........well if I am on hard luck,someone may use and get ahead without me.

I have already accepted
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What else.......
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Re: Angel Investors !!!

Ok, first I thought you had some unique techhy invention/gadget and was looking for funds to develop it on commercial scale.

Now it seems more like a business plan for a product which already exists.

Dreamy kid, have you done competitor analysis or infact SWOT analysis for your business idea. Im sure there already are much bigger companies involved in it.
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Im sure there already are much bigger companies involved in it
This doubt has been already answered.........not in my country.........

I have already told,that there are companies,and they operate regionally,they are small and not as big as you think they are.
The concept of Biofertiliser or total organic farming is very new in my country,(maybe old in First World countries) and all the bigger industries that is being feared of produces chemical fertlisers...........not Biofertilisers.
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Re: Angel Investors !!!

How much do you need?
What are you gonna do with the money?
What's in it for me?
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@Wasted...........Sir, if every kid on this earth could have started running just after being born,then I would have assured you that I could effectively compete with the guys you just mentioned.

The company you focussed has also begun very moderately,and even now,I can assure you their website and stats is nowhere close to this http://fert.nic.in/production/growth.asp

This is the industry I am targetting to share market space with and not a regionally popular concept.

If you do not like the idea kind Sir,then please let it be,but please do not deem it stupid,as I believe it requires a lot of logical thinking to get it moving.

@Every people interested in every kind of way,I will send personal message after I receive their comments on this thread here,
My PM would contain my email and a detailed study of the concept and the market and negotiations that answers the question "What's in it for me?"
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This doubt has been already answered.........not in my country.........

I have already told,that there are companies,and they operate regionally,they are small and not as big as you think they are.
The concept of Biofertiliser or total organic farming is very new in my country,(maybe old in First World countries) and all the bigger industries that is being feared of produces chemical fertlisers...........not Biofertilisers.
I think thats a brilliant idea! Now all you need to do is draft up a Business plan, Cashflow forecast and a P&L and the marketing strategy.

With all that in place you can even walk into a bank and they would be more than willing to finance you! Soon your hard luck would turn into Golden luck and you would not even remember your tough times.

Remember there's always a rainbow after the stormy weather!
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I think thats a brilliant idea! Now all you need to do is draft up a Business plan, Cashflow forecast and a P&L and the marketing strategy.

With all that in place you can even walk into a bank and they would be more than willing to finance you! Soon your hard luck would turn into Golden luck and you would not even remember your tough times.

Remember there's always a rainbow after the stormy weather!
Ferts, chemicals forget it, it's all run via the state. MMTC, STC Ipl etc do the importing. Anybody can import ferts to India but without the govt subsidies, which are only given to state companies you cannot sell at a profit. Subsidies are currently about 50% of the purchase price.
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Ferts, chemicals forget it, it's all run via the state. MMTC, STC Ipl etc do the importing. Anybody can import ferts to India but without the govt subsidies, which are only given to state companies you cannot sell at a profit. Subsidies are currently about 50% of the purchase price.
Its not a matter of importing from outside,it is rather a plan to produce it locally in India and selling it likewise.Being an Indian company and registered likewise it will enjoy the same facilities like any other state companies...........the foreign venture capital is the company's internal affairs.
Our Governments here very much support and subsidizes Bio fert production by private units.
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Syngenta India was faster than you

http://www.syngenta.co.in/

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Syngenta India was faster than you

http://www.syngenta.co.in/

Syngenta is anything but bio
They're the agrobaddies, in cahoots with Monsanto and all those other transgenic players...

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well every established players are faster than me,and their Directors are older than me too......thing is Syngenta has become the seed developer,my specialisation would only be Biofertiliser only one focus product.

You will find many Indian Biotech companies on the web,
some into bio-diesel,some into seeds,others into this and that,well India needs grass root level product..........as per my assessment.

Some of these companies price their products very high...........well their corporate policies may allow them to.But most farmers here are not capable of affording them.Which thus makes it a chaotic situation in the market,many brave farmers try the new things and due to fertility and irrigation reasons they fail and they fail to clear the debts.As a result,the company does a very good one time business.........and then shift to something else.

As I have already said,only Angel Investors can in this case help pull the miracle.........Investors who look into too much of pros and cons and this and that.........are well normal investors.
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As I have already said,only Angel Investors can in this case help pull the miracle.........Investors who look into too much of pros and cons and this and that.........are well normal investors.
Here you go mate: http://www.seca.ch/default.asp?V_ITEM_ID=1249

Contact them and make your case and do keep us posted on how it went.

Good luck with your cow dung and horse manure manufacturing plant.
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Here you go mate: http://www.seca.ch/default.asp?V_ITEM_ID=1249

Contact them and make your case and do keep us posted on how it went.

Good luck with your cow dung and horse manure manufacturing plant.
Wow,thanks..........your last line seems to waive Good Luck at me if I go by traditional Swiss standards
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Wow,thanks..........your last line seems to waive Good Luck at me if I go by traditional Swiss standards
Well thats what bio/organic fertiliser mostly is.
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Dreamy kid, have you done competitor analysis or infact SWOT analysis for your business idea.
SWOT = Simply Wastage Of Time
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