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Old 18.08.2006, 13:29
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Can I phone the tax people directly and ask in my broken German?
Best to go and visit your tax office in your local gemeinde (community office). Yes - hard as it is to believe taxes are processed by 4000 separate tax depts. Especially if you are going to go and do broken German it's probably best in person.
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Re: Tax question for married, self-employed person

My wife normally does the taxes so I guess we can include everything like we normally do and then the tax people will calculate what they think is correct. I will include all the bills and stuff and have everything nicely itemized like my other self-employed Swiss design friends do (they are all non AG/GMBH as well). The issue is that I am married and they are single so they can't help me with my main question.
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Re: Tax question for married, self-employed person

How do I find my local gemeinde? Will their contact details be on my tax form?
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Re: Tax question for married, self-employed person

Zurich city means you need to go to Werd to talk to your tax person, I believe. One stop off Stauffacher on the 14/9 direction Triemli
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I would say ask them this question. Gut feeling is - what's done is done. Your submission of a tax return is closure from your side IMO.
Absolutely right almost. I have had some problems still ongoing with the 2004 tax return where I moved from Canton ZH to Canton Aargau. They are still asking me questions relating to our joint income and the deductions I have made. Yes I am pushing it to the wire but that is what it is about isn't it.
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Re: Tax question for married, self-employed person

Ah ha here some info. As I have just received a call from the "friendly" lady at the Tax dept. She told me some interesting things.

1. You cannot simply declare yourself self-employed - you need to take this to the gemeinde and have them declare you self-employed and in doing so you need to show that you will not be a cost to the Gemeinde. Whether this is long term or short term no idea but basically you need to present a business case that shows you are loosely viable. Nothing like a bank would expect but something.

2. For the rules on income tax you need to read this:
http://www.estv.admin.ch/data/ist/d/dossier/d5.pdf

3. You cannot reduce your income to minus but you can carry over your losses into the following year and if that is not sufficient to make you a plus over however many years it takes (up to 7).

Which kind of makes sense and contradicts some of that said in this thread previously - but this is then fact and can be found allegedly in the above mentioned document on the taxation of the individual. There is for those wanting to know the difference also this document for businesses but I am sorry to say they are only available in French and German - interesting hey I thought there were 4 official languages here...
Business Tax: http://www.estv.admin.ch/data/ist/d/dossier/d2.pdf

So any questions read the docs... Oh and if there is any specific German text you are struggling with I will translate it but not the lot...
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Re: Tax question for married, self-employed person

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1. You cannot simply declare yourself self-employed - you need to take this to the gemeinde and have them declare you self-employed
Richard when I quit my job to go independant I contacted RAV to buy some breathing space as I did not let them know that I was going to become self-employed. They put me on unemployment benefit as I was eligible for it (after contributing to it for 4 years etc etc).
After one month I cancelled it and said the I am going self employed. So the lady at RAV declared me self-employed in the document and I even had to return the one month unemployment benefit I got as I was not willing to go to some silly place they wanted me to go which was full of asylum seekers.
So RAV declarired me self-emplyoyed is their documents...is that equivalent of geminde declaring me self-employed?

and in doing so you need to show that you will not be a cost to the Gemeinde. Whether this is long term or short term no idea but basically you need to present a business case that shows you are loosely viable. Nothing like a bank would expect but something.

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and in doing so you need to show that you will not be a cost to the Gemeinde. Whether this is long term or short term no idea but basically you need to present a business case that shows you are loosely viable. Nothing like a bank would expect but something.
Viable for what? If my business fails or flourishes it is none of their business. I am not dependant on anything from them. I don't want unemployment benefit...I am not looking for business grant or anything so why the F@k do I need to show put a business case for them?

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3. You cannot reduce your income to minus but you can carry over your losses into the following year and if that is not sufficient to make you a plus over however many years it takes (up to 7).
I can tak my losses to the next year even as a self-employed person? I will go over the documents you posted.
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