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09.02.2011, 12:51
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Hi everyone,
Anyone with alot of time on their hands want to write a relative short business plan? (its paid of course (few 100ish) I need it by the end of february and I simply do not have the time.
note: this is not a student business plan , its an actual real one.
Let me know
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09.02.2011, 12:52
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| | Re: Business plan | Quote: | |  | | | Hi everyone,
Anyone with alot of time on their hands want to write a relative short business plan? (its paid of course (few 100ish) I need it by the end of february and I simply do not have the time.
note: this is not a student business plan , its an actual real one.
Let me know | | | | | Just done mine, in what language do you need it?
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09.02.2011, 13:19
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| | Re: Business plan | Quote: | |  | | | Just done mine, in what language do you need it? | | | | |
English, or dutch would work fine as I can translate it. hahaha never knew flemish would be useful haha
What did you do yours on?
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09.02.2011, 13:21
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| | Re: Business plan | Quote: | |  | | | English, or dutch would work fine as I can translate it. hahaha never knew flemish would be useful haha 
What did you do yours on? | | | | | Both German and English, got it checked and passed by the bank ( they wanted a copy ) and the city council , i now hold my very own paper that says i have a company in Switzerland
PM (PB = privaat bericht?) me if you want and will discuss the details - its in the Swiss format, i assume you will use it for Switzerland?
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09.02.2011, 13:22
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| | Re: Business plan | Quote: | |  | | | Both German and English, got it checked and passed by the bank ( they wanted a copy ) and the city council , i now hold my very own paper that says i have a company in Switzerland 
PM (PB = privaat bericht?) me if you want and will discuss the details - its in the Swiss format, i assume you will use it for Switzerland? | | | | |
nice nice, what kinda company?
Edit sorry didnt see the last part
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09.02.2011, 13:23
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| | Re: Business plan | Quote: | |  | | | nice nice, what kinda company? | | | | | Check my signature
Its something i had in Ireland since 2007 - still jobhunting in Switzerland but to secure myself and allow invoicing to existing customers, i just re-registered my company here.
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09.02.2011, 13:43
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| | Re: Business plan | Quote: | |  | | | note: this is not a student business plan , its an actual real one. | | | | | Are you sure this is a good idea?
I have always been interested in the topic... but if I ever grow the balls to start my own business, I would probably outsource pretty much anything but not the original business plan... after all is the idea not only to screw investors, but to find out weather or not it is worth your time and money...
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09.02.2011, 13:54
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| | Re: Business plan | Quote: | |  | | | Are you sure this is a good idea?
I have always been interested in the topic... but if I ever grow the balls to start my own business, I would probably outsource pretty much anything but not the original business plan... after all is the idea not only to screw investors, but to find out weather or not it is worth your time and money... | | | | |
It will not be my time and money....  . It will be done, just need the final push for the ok
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09.02.2011, 13:58
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| | Re: Business plan | Quote: | |  | | | Are you sure this is a good idea?
I have always been interested in the topic... but if I ever grow the balls to start my own business, I would probably outsource pretty much anything but not the original business plan... after all is the idea not only to screw investors, but to find out weather or not it is worth your time and money... | | | | | agree with you. BP is a good way to put on paper your idea and make sure you've thought through everything.
once it is on paper, you can get people with experience to rip it to shreds (metaphorically) and really check you aren't about to do something incredibly stupid.
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09.02.2011, 13:59
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Sadly enough its a formality that needs to be done here..
Ireland didn't require one, just 25 euro to the company registration office and off you went..
Hence there being so many micky mouse companies over there..something they won't allow in Switzerland
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09.02.2011, 14:07
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09.02.2011, 14:19
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The websites of banks (Kantonal as well as UBS and CS) generally have software to help with business plans .... Try those.
Is it for you (to satisfy yourself about the idea, to het business advice) or are you trying to get financing?
Lisa
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09.02.2011, 14:22
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| | Re: Business plan | Quote: | |  | | | Sadly enough its a formality that needs to be done here..
Ireland didn't require one, just 25 euro to the company registration office and off you went..
Hence there being so many micky mouse companies over there..something they won't allow in Switzerland | | | | | what? you need a BP to incorporate a company??? what's the point in that?
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14.02.2011, 15:30
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Read the thread and the links found were useful ... cheers!
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14.02.2011, 18:22
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| | Re: Business plan | Quote: | |  | | | Sadly enough its a formality that needs to be done here..
Ireland didn't require one, just 25 euro to the company registration office and off you went..
Hence there being so many micky mouse companies over there..something they won't allow in Switzerland | | | | | Perhaps this is being nit-picky but the truth is you don't need to have a written business plan to start a company in Switzerland. You would only need it if you are looking for someone else to finance your venture.
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14.02.2011, 18:24
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| | Re: Business plan | Quote: | |  | | | Perhaps this is being nit-picky but the truth is you don't need to have a written business plan to start a company in Switzerland. You would only need it if you are looking for someone else to finance your venture. | | | | | I didn't need any money but in order to start a company and open a bank account, both the bank, gemeinde and Handelsregister demanded a 3 page long business plan.
Without it i would simply not get a cert, they refused my original one ( in english) as it wasn't setup in the Swiss layout..and german  but thats nitpicking now..
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14.02.2011, 18:41
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| | Re: Business plan | Quote: | |  | | | I didn't need any money but in order to start a company and open a bank account, both the bank, gemeinde and Handelsregister demanded a 3 page long business plan.
Without it i would simply not get a cert, they refused my original one ( in english) as it wasn't setup in the Swiss layout..and german but thats nitpicking now.. | | | | |
What kind of company are you trying to start up? I've just opened 2 AG's and none of my bankers required a formal written business plan. You are required to submit your articles of incorporation to the commercial registry and to the the Cantonal authorities. Your bank does not need the public deed/articles of incorporation to open any account nor any kind of business plan unless you are asking for financing. All you need from the bank is to have them open a blocked capital account. Once they are sent the extract from the commercial registry they have to release those funds. Typically they will waive their fees (between 200 -250 CHF) for opening the blocked account to keep your business, they then open a new account in your corporate name and transfer the initial funds there.
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14.02.2011, 18:44
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| | Re: Business plan | Quote: | |  | | | What kind of company are you trying to start up? I've just opened 2 AG's and none of my bankers required a formal written business plan. You are required to submit your articles of incorporation to the commercial registry and to the the Cantonal authorities. Your bank does not need the public deed/articles of incorporation to open any account nor any kind of business plan unless you are asking for financing. All you need from the bank is to have them open a blocked capital account. Once they are sent the extract from the commercial registry they have to release those funds. Typically they will waive their fees (between 200 -250 CHF) for opening the blocked account to keep your business, they then open a new account in your corporate name and transfer the initial funds there. | | | | | Sole trader, not an ag
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14.02.2011, 19:06
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As I understand it all registrations for new companies regardless of the structure must be in one of the 4 official languages, English is not accepted as one of them. I had my articles of incorporation translated for my own peace of mind but it is only the German version that is accepted for official purposes. Perhaps you could hire someone to translate what you have already prepared? | Quote: | |  | | | Sole trader, not an ag | | | | | | 
14.02.2011, 19:10
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| | Re: Business plan | Quote: | |  | | | As I understand it all registrations for new companies regardless of the structure must be in one of the 4 official languages, English is not accepted as one of them. I had my articles of incorporation translated for my own peace of mind but it is only the German version that is accepted for official purposes. Perhaps you could hire someone to translate what you have already prepared? | | | | | Thats what i mean, i had to have a business plan , only in german for the 3 names parties in the message below.
2 weeks later i got my cert and handelsregister eintragung so up and running
But note, its only as a sole trader, i have no idea about ag or gmbh, not sure if Anthony needs more then just a sole trader, depending on his venture and the risks he is willing to take.
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