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Old 24.02.2011, 14:50
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Set up an Einzelfirma (Raison Indiv.le) WHILE being employed

Hi,

I'm employed and would like to start a Solo Proprietor business (selling services and software WW --> hobby).

I know I can (already asked to Chamber of Commerce), but I have 3 questions:
1. how does it work with AVS considered I'm paying it already, as I'm employed, AND I know for sure this year I'll be under 100K revenue (once and if I get close to it, I'll change it to SA or Sarl)
2. price to start is just under 300 (register commerce) ?
3. what about I just start and say nothing, see how it goes, and THEN register it ?

Thx in advance for your feedback!
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Old 24.02.2011, 15:40
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1. how does it work with AVS considered I'm paying it already, as I'm employed, AND I know for sure this year I'll be under 100K revenue (once and if I get close to it, I'll change it to SA or Sarl)
You pay the self employed contributions on top of your employment contributions - not a huge amount during the year and then balanced at year end to equal approx 13% of your additional income.

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2. price to start is just under 300 (register commerce) ?
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3. what about I just start and say nothing, see how it goes, and THEN register it ?
I think they'd notice when you register for MwsT .
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Old 24.02.2011, 16:09
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Re: Set up an Einzelfirma (Raison Indiv.le) WHILE being employed

Check your contract of employment just to make sure you are allowed first, or if you need to ask permission. It is quite common to have clauses in there of this nature.
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Re: Set up an Einzelfirma (Raison Indiv.le) WHILE being employed

Thanks Swissbob!

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You pay the self employed contributions on top of your employment contributions - not a huge amount during the year and then balanced at year end to equal approx 13% of your additional income.
Meaning 13% of my additional gross income coming from the Solo company?
So, I register Einzelfirma and I tell the AVS office, correct?
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Sure, I meant I do not have to register until I get close to 100k CHF.
MwsT is TVA ?
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Re: Set up an Einzelfirma (Raison Indiv.le) WHILE being employed

@nigelr

Yep, first thing I did ;-)
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Old 24.02.2011, 17:43
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Re: Set up an Einzelfirma (Raison Indiv.le) WHILE being employed

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Hi,

I'm employed and would like to start a Solo Proprietor business (selling services and software WW --> hobby).

I know I can (already asked to Chamber of Commerce), but I have 3 questions:
1. how does it work with AVS considered I'm paying it already, as I'm employed, AND I know for sure this year I'll be under 100K revenue (once and if I get close to it, I'll change it to SA or Sarl)
2. price to start is just under 300 (register commerce) ?
3. what about I just start and say nothing, see how it goes, and THEN register it ?

Thx in advance for your feedback!
About "what about I just start and say nothing, see how it goes, and THEN register it ?"

Why? You can register & start without any other implications.
You do not start to pay AHV until you have significant earnings to declare. My experience is that if you write to AHV & tell them you are starting they are not interested until/before you start reporting significant incomes.
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Re: Set up an Einzelfirma (Raison Indiv.le) WHILE being employed

@ Marton

Thanks for the info, could you please quantify "significant incomes" ? I read 2200 CHF, correct ? Or what is your experience ?
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@ Marton

Thanks for the info, could you please quantify "significant incomes" ? I read 2200 CHF, correct ? Or what is your experience ?
4,000chf in a year is the offical number - more like 1,000 chf/month before there is any official interest
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