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Any role....as long as I have my fair cut when Swisscom takes over
Are you going to play the "provide sht loads of up-front capital" roll?

Come on, the chauffeur has expectations here!
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Old 12.05.2011, 15:12
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Re: I want to start a company and be extremely rich.....come join me.

If you can guarantee to be as successful as these guys then I'm in http://techcrunch.com/2011/04/25/yahoo-intonow/ . Basically they sold a 12 week old app for around $20million. Not sure what I'd do, but I'd make your coffee and polish your shoes for a share
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Old 12.05.2011, 15:14
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Re: I want to start a company and be extremely rich.....come join me.

What company cars are on offer? And dont give me any of that 650 chuffs/month crap.
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Old 12.05.2011, 15:18
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Re: I want to start a company and be extremely rich.....come join me.

As VP of marketing, I would first of all need to come up with a company name... how's iFreeBeer?
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Old 12.05.2011, 15:19
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What company cars are on offer?
You need to be able to drive a tractor, apparently.
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Old 12.05.2011, 15:23
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Re: I want to start a company and be extremely rich.....come join me.

I can provide you with free consulting on how to make the company successful. I just want to be paid when you sell it. Or alternatively I volunteer for the position as President of Board of Directors and get paid for all the long meetings in nice hotels, with nice food and secretaries.
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Old 12.05.2011, 15:24
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Consider it done!

Back to being serious.

Some 8-10 years ago a guy in Denmark started a phone company (Telmore). He bought net access, minutes and data from the biggest phone company in DK (TDC) and created an easy to use online User Interface.

After some years of "Full Speed Ahead" expansion he sold his company to...voila...TDC and cashed in a sh!t load of money. After a few years of thinking....well...he probably signed a "stay away from phone business agreement", he did it all again. Started another phone company (Bibob) and now this company is expanding (read: taking customers from the others) and beat me if this company isn't up for sale within a few years as well.

Today I just read that another phone company (Onfone) has been bought by TDC for approx. 60 mill. CHF. They have only 175.000 customers and had a turnover of as little as 4-5 mill. CHF last year.

Onfone was/is operating in the same way as Telmore and Bibob (and several others on the DK market) by buying network access, minutes and data from the big companies.

So...what are we waiting for?.....let move folks.

EFONE...EPHONE or whatever....YEAH!
actually. this is not a bad idea. not sure if the swiss market is big enough, or swiss people price sensitive enough to change providers but there are enough fat profits to carve out a virtual network operator.

i'm in.
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Old 12.05.2011, 15:25
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Are you going to play the "provide sht loads of up-front capital" roll?

Come on, the chauffeur has expectations here!
If the idea/commitment/setup/energy/timing is right....I will put in everything I own
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Old 12.05.2011, 15:26
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I'll be head of IT

My first task will be to reduce all IT costs by outsourcing, and then taking a big fat bonus and golden goodbye.
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If the idea/commitment/setup/energy/timing is right....I will put in everything I own
I said 5 years not 5 months
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Old 12.05.2011, 15:28
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You must be joking about the telecom rates!!! Switzerland must be one of the most expensive in Europe for mobile calls...
you just failed the job interview
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Old 12.05.2011, 15:30
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If you can guarantee to be as successful as these guys then I'm in http://techcrunch.com/2011/04/25/yahoo-intonow/ . Basically they sold a 12 week old app for around $20million. Not sure what I'd do, but I'd make your coffee and polish your shoes for a share
obviously we should all write apps based on bullsh-t ideas because the big boys with cash can't tell what will work and what is bound to fail...
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Old 12.05.2011, 15:33
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actually. this is not a bad idea. not sure if the swiss market is big enough, or swiss people price sensitive enough to change providers but there are enough fat profits to carve out a virtual network operator.

i'm in.
The Swiss market is approx. 50% bigger than the Danish (based on population). Let me remind you, that all it took was a data base with 175.000 customers and a turnover at 4-5 mill. CHF to close a deal that gave the founders (which will be us in this case) a lot of money.....A LOT.

The primary customer is (of course) the young generation who is less faithfull to the operators, than oldies like me.
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The Swiss market is approx. 50% bigger than the Danish (based on population). Let me remind you, that all it took was a data base with 175.000 customers and a turnover at 4-5 mill. CHF to close a deal that gave the founders (which will be us in this case) a lot of money.....A LOT.

The primary customer is (of course) the young generation who is less faithfull to the operators, than oldies like me.
swiss population = 7.7 mln
danish population = 5.5 mln
looks like you need to hire someone for analysis as well
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The Swiss market is approx. 50% bigger than the Danish (based on population). Let me remind you, that all it took was a data base with 175.000 customers and a turnover at 4-5 mill. CHF to close a deal that gave the founders (which will be us in this case) a lot of money.....A LOT.

The primary customer is (of course) the young generation who is less faithfull to the operators, than oldies like me.

you would still need a fair bit of money behind you, to buy and print the sim cards, get retailers on board, advertising and paying for the airtime, if you can find a mobile network willing to allow another mvno on there network
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Re: I want to start a company and be extremely rich.....come join me.

I've set up a "room" on scribblar.com

The room is called "iEFers", and I need email addresses to invite people...

As CEO, ElggDK, could you give me a list of people interested in joining and their emails?

I won't sell them to dodgy online advertising agencies. Honest.

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and on the flip side you have someone like redbull mobile who invested shit loads of money in marketing etc on there virtual network here, and it flopped big time.
yeah they smashed the service after launching without a parachute
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Old 12.05.2011, 15:42
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obviously we should all write apps based on bullsh-t ideas because the big boys with cash can't tell what will work and what is bound to fail...
Ok... here is the first draft for iFreeBeer:

1. iFreeBeer
The first product will be for free to create an impressing user base. It is essentially a social network for beer consumption. The more of your contacts consume in a participating pub, the lower will be your price per beer. This powerful combination of the social network megatrend with the current boom of online coupons and augmented reality technology will surely shift some paradigms.
The application is for free, but users sign some terms and conditions that give us the right to use the collected data in any way we want.

2. iFreeBeer WE
As the first service will be offered for free, we need a cash cow. iFreeBeer Wife Edition is an App that partners with a regular iFreeBeer account. At any time the normal user purchases a drink, the WE user will receive an alarm including pricing information. The APP additionally gives access to the historical data of the user with a simple set of statistic tools.

This application will make use of the new iTunes subscription plans and costs 50 CHF a month.

3. iFreeBeer WE Gold
Additionally to the standard WE edition does the Gold edition include the location of the beer purchase as well as the users current location.

Costs: 100 CHF a month.

4. iFreeBeer WE Platinum
On top of the Gold features does this edition include access to the full information what other iFreeBeer users are in your husbands network and were drinking with him at any given occasion.

Costs: 150 CHF a month.
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Old 12.05.2011, 15:43
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you would still need a fair bit of money behind you, to buy and print the sim cards, get retailers on board, advertising and paying for the airtime, if you can find a mobile network willing to allow another mvno on there network
Amen...!!

Where there is a will there is a way.

I have a plan.
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Re: I want to start a company and be extremely rich.....come join me.

Um...it's not that they had a database of 175000 people...it's that they had 175000 clients. Clients who forked over cash for a product because they believed it was the best product in the marketplace. Not really the same thing.

I think the problem with the IT crowd is that they believe in "if you build it they will come". That is: the best product wins. Nope. McDonalds doesn't have the best burger, the cheapest burger, or the best value burger. Nor do they have a totally unique product offering. They also didn't invent the burger. However they're the most successful at what they do. Why?

Distribution. Discuss.
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