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Re: job interview question about salary

120k IS the average
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Old 03.04.2012, 22:27
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120k IS the average
Sorry, B*shit. The median gross salary is just below 6000 CHF / month or 72K CHF / year in 2010. Official source: Swiss Federal Statistics Office.

http://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/portal/d...gnpID=2011-942

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Ergebnisse der schweizerischen Lohnstrukturerhebung 2010
Im Jahr 2010 belief sich der monatliche Bruttomedianlohn auf 5979 Franken

Neuchâtel, 28.11.2011 (BFS) - Gemäss den ersten Ergebnissen der schweizerischen Lohnstrukturerhebung des Bundesamtes für Statistik (BFS) belief sich der monatliche Bruttomedianlohn im Jahr 2010 auf 5979 Franken. Im Zeitraum von 2000 bis 2010 nahm der Lohn für Stellen mit höchstem Anforderungsniveau stärker zu als jener für Stellen mit tiefem Anforderungsniveau. Der Anteil der Stellen, bei denen der Bruttolohn unter 4000 Franken liegt, betrug 10,7 Prozent. Das Lohngefälle zwischen Frauen und Männern hat sich von 2008 bis 2010 durchschnittlich um 0,9 Prozentpunkte verringert. Rund ein Drittel der Arbeitnehmenden hat einen Bonus erhalten (30,6%).
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Old 03.04.2012, 22:31
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Re: job interview question about salary

yes, but what is the average expat salary?
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yes, but what is the average expat salary?
that's a different question

I think the document mentions 12K CHF for highly qualified foreigners...
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Re: job interview question about salary

And also a totally useless thing to be asking since the average is exactly that!! There are a small number of people on extremely large salaries and loads of people well under the average so what another expat is earning is not even important.

You need to check what the salary is offerring for the role and so what if you are an expat who thinks you are worth more, you are only worth what they are willing to pay
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I think it is equally unprofessional for companies not to state up front before the interview stage what salary range they are willing to pay.

The employer will already know what budget is available when hiring someone. Why not state it on the job advert?

When I was a contractor I always asked the agent what hourly rate range minus agency cut was to be expected. Ditto when applying for permie jobs.

It might be "the way we do things in Switzerland" but that does not make it right.

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It may be common for English-speaking countries to give you an idea up-front as to what kind of salary you can expect (and I do cherish this behaviour) but in my experience in the German-speaking areas this just isn't the case; it is very common for the HR-interviewer to want an estimation from the interviewee as to what you expect to get. This way they have room to maneuver and possibly get you at a cheaper rate.

Having just completed a whole bunch of interviews between Feb - March (most on the telephone) I often heard a lot of teeth-sucking (in Germany) when I gave an honest answer as to my salary expectation. They really want to have good knowledge and experience for next-to-nothing. I was even told by one HR manager that I should look at the price of living in their area, which I found rather brass-necked. It wasn't even like I was demanding too much (have 12-years experience and know what is payed).

Well in Switzerland I gave an estimation in my interviews and the response was a lot more positive (no teeth-sucking). In the end I was made one solid offer from the 1st interview within 24 hours - which I accepted.

BTW - just because things are done differently in Switzerland doesn't make it right or wrong. It's just different.
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Re: job interview question about salary

It is a very open minded approach you have, which is also normal when you are the foreign person !

It pays. Well done.

My little trick is always to ask ... (and the formulation is important !) ... to ask :
what salary fork do you plan for that post ? or for this function ?

Then you take position relative to this. Even giving a vague ... it's ok as answer. Not giving any amount. And you pass to the next steps of the hiring process.

Often, you don't have a business owner but rather an employee dealing with you and he thinks in terms of business fork for a position. While he would have his personal instinct that would enter into action if you ask ... how much will you pay ? (wanting to makes good business ! we all want to complete well our job and paying little for something is better than paying a lot ! its our nature)

With the question on the post, we open the door on the explanation on the post. Beyond the fork, it also allows you to measure the degree of expected responsibility linked to the post. (which can vary ... )

The salary should be discussed at the end, when they already chose you. And of course it would be at the high end of their fork or slightly higher than their fork. And as a personal services, they should grant it to you. As a welcome gift
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Re: job interview question about salary

I would say that 120k chf is low if you have several years experience. Would say that your minimum would be around 180k and then of course bonuses on top of that.
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I would say that 120k chf is low if you have several years experience. Would say that your minimum would be around 180k and then of course bonuses on top of that.
popping out of the blue, and why not 230K? Or 130K? Or 20K? Based on the information provided by OP,

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i had many years experiences in international trading involved both in decision making and operation.
it could be equally 60K as well, depending if she was trading oil, cereals, office equipment, used cars, toilet paper, and at what level of responsibility ("decision making" what? operations what?)
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Re: job interview question about salary

be honest, my answer to this question is always: 'as much as possible'
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