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Re: Big Shopping Malls in Switzerland

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The thing is, a traditional shopping mall as you know it from other countries hardly exist in Switzerland (and continental Europe).
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and they say the old town is like a shoppingmall

copy&pasted this from wiki
" Thanks to 6 kilometres of arcades, the old town boasts one of the longest covered shopping promenades in Europe."
Er, Lib said traditional

What's traditional about the old town covered shopping in Bern ?



Don't you understand what traditional means?
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Re: Big Shopping Malls in Switzerland

Dear All

Thanks for you inputs.

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Old 10.10.2012, 17:55
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Re: Big Shopping Malls in Switzerland

Hi!
I just googled this here:
http://www.help.ch/toplisten.cfm?art...Einkaufscenter

Hope it helps!
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Re: Big Shopping Malls in Switzerland

We definitely don't have North American scale malls, but we do have some shopping centres.

In Geneva:

Balexert
La Praille

(don't know if Les Cygnes, Planète Charmilles and others should be included? Tough distinction to make)
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Old 10.10.2012, 21:36
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Re: Big Shopping Malls in Switzerland

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We definitely don't have North American scale malls, but we do have some shopping centres.

In Geneva:

Balexert
La Praille

(don't know if Les Cygnes, Planète Charmilles and others should be included? Tough distinction to make)
We dont need them either as all the large scale american style shopping centers are good for is killing local business and making a ghost town of traditional villages. Much better to have a shopping area where you browse through the different shops since at the end of the day all the big shopping center tries to do is put a roof over a standard set of shops and force tenancy rules on the occupying shops.

Having a traditional shopping area provides much more choice and competition as shops need to be better at offering their services. Shopping malls are all about "our way or no way"!
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Re: Big Shopping Malls in Switzerland

Biggest shopping mall in Europe is in Germany...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CentrO

My daughter loves the American shoe shops. Go early, parking can be a hassle if you arrive after 13.00 especially when the weather is nice.
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Sorry to disappoint the detroit mall doesnt even make it to the top 5 largest not sure how far down but there are numerous malls in China and Asia which drawf it!

I'm surprised that anyone cares about shopping malls. Surely we have other things to do with our lives.
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Re: Big Shopping Malls in Switzerland

The problem with Swiss malls is not at all their size - it is the high concentration of the retail sector. A mall is typically either Migros or Coop. Some older ones have both and there might be a few exceptions against the rule, but in principle: If a Mall is a Migros one, will it not only have a Migros supermarket, but the M version of DIY, Sports, furniture, hairdresser, restaurant and what not else. Except of some few shops will the entire Mall belong in some way or another to the company. Same with Coop the other way around.

So you will never have a mall full of one topic, say competing electronic shops or the like, the large corporations make sure that everyone has his place and competition is kept at the utmost minimum. As a consumer are you expected to come and buy your stuff without the ability to compare any prices and simply shut up. This comparing of goods and prices is exactly what makes a shopping experience fun... so this is in short why shopping in Switzerland always feels like a necessary evil and a rip-off instead of fun.
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Re: Big Shopping Malls in Switzerland

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I'm surprised that anyone cares about shopping malls. Surely we have other things to do with our lives.
No need for one to spend their lives in it but it is very convenient. In my case, I like them for the fact they are covered so perfect when too hot of too cold or rainy. It provides all the big street brands on the same roof and allow me to find clothes, shoes, electronics and food all in one area. If going with the kids, I don't have to be scared of traffic and easy to access bathrooms without having to consume something to be aloud to use them.

In our case, big malls are use more by the locals while the big shopping streets in downtown are full packed with tourists. It is a nightmare to shop there.

And no, I don't shop to pass time as I hate shopping. I want to go fast and easy and get done with it as fast as possible.
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Re: Big Shopping Malls in Switzerland

The largest new "mall" in east Switzerland is the City West shopping center in Chur. It just celebrated its 1 year anniversary last week... 26 shops, 2 restaurants and a cafe.
http://www.citywest-chur.ch/home.html
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Re: Big Shopping Malls in Switzerland

Is it just me or does anyone else hate big shopping malls?

Or indeed, hate shopping? (more so in big malls).
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Re: Big Shopping Malls in Switzerland

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Glatt in Zurich has that distinction right now, I think.
I thought it was the Stücki centre in Basel with >120 shops.
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Is it just me or does anyone else hate big shopping malls?

Or indeed, hate shopping? (more so in big malls).
you're not alone. How somebody can call shopping a hobby is far beyond my understanding! (Just to make it clear: I hated shopping in any single country I've been, with the exception of the Spice Market in Istanbul)
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Re: Big Shopping Malls in Switzerland

well, why don't you try Stücki in Basel? http://www.stuecki-basel.ch/
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Is it just me or does anyone else hate big shopping malls?

Or indeed, hate shopping? (more so in big malls).
I think that's one of the the things I like about big shopping malls. I usually don't like shopping, the time it takes, the crowds, parking, driving from store to store. This is all simplified in a large shopping mall.

I always have to give myself a good 3 hours travel time, to get a basic shopping trip around zurich. If all those stores I needed to hit were in Sihlcity, I'd be done in 45 mins easy.
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The problem with Swiss malls is not at all their size - it is the high concentration of the retail sector. A mall is typically either Migros or Coop. Some older ones have both and there might be a few exceptions against the rule, but in principle: If a Mall is a Migros one, will it not only have a Migros supermarket, but the M version of DIY, Sports, furniture, hairdresser, restaurant and what not else. Except of some few shops will the entire Mall belong in some way or another to the company. Same with Coop the other way around.

So you will never have a mall full of one topic, say competing electronic shops or the like, the large corporations make sure that everyone has his place and competition is kept at the utmost minimum. As a consumer are you expected to come and buy your stuff without the ability to compare any prices and simply shut up. This comparing of goods and prices is exactly what makes a shopping experience fun... so this is in short why shopping in Switzerland always feels like a necessary evil and a rip-off instead of fun.
I hate this fact. I much prefer American shopping malls where I can go to tons of different competing stores for all sorts of products. Then again, I don't know of any American malls with as many pools as Westside...
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Is it just me or does anyone else hate big shopping malls?

Or indeed, hate shopping? (more so in big malls).
these are some of the things I dont like about some big shopping centres/malls

Lighting, lack of fresh air, noise, claustrophobia, signage (where is the f***king toilet)
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I thought it was the Stücki centre in Basel with >120 shops.
I guess it depends on the metric used?

Are we talking in terms of revenue? Profits? Number of shops? Floorspace? Something else?
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Re: Big Shopping Malls in Switzerland

If I want a "mall" experience, I'd much rather go to a city center full of shops than to an actual "mall".

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Re: Big Shopping Malls in Switzerland

Just love big shopping Malls ... for about 1 week or 2 a year. Strangely enough, the High Cross in Leicester is great - fab John Lewis, Debenhams, Waterstones, Apple Store, and all the usual - have had my fun for the year - all shopped out, and can't wait to go back to Neuchatel or Pontarlier, for individual stores, atmosphere, etc.

I am totally allergic to big Malls in the run up to Christmas though - that crappy synthesised americanized Christmas music and shopping frenzy is the one thing in life that truly brings me close to break down.
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