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Law issues ? WHAT law issues exactly ?
Nicotin based products cannot be sold over Swiss ground without specific authorization (generally reserved to pharma) but Swiss citizens can buy a maximum of 150ml in all EU. The primary website currently selling these in the area online and offline is French (Annecy).

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Ports Francs et Entrepôts de Genève SA
It may not be free of charge, but in the end, it may be worth the expense. There you have French and Swiss trucking companies at your disposal as well as customs agents
Well that seems a pretty good idea as well, as they offer a very interesting range of services, from reception of goods to shipping, including variable volume storage facilities. I think it's worth dropping them a line. Thanks alot!
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Nicotin based products cannot be sold over Swiss ground without specific authorization (generally reserved to pharma) but Swiss citizens can buy a maximum of 150ml in all EU. The primary website currently selling these in the area online and offline is French (Annecy).
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You know, I am not a smoker, unless you consider smoking a blunt while fishing from time to time, but, can't you buy nicotine based products in kiosks, hotels, bars, restaurants, cigarette machines that use tokens and change, from cigarette girls, gas stations, night clubs, etc? I mean, this seems, despite it's new strange un organized laws, one of the last standout countries in Europe that cigarettes still seem to be everywhere, and their counterparts.


I really don't understand if I can so easily buy cigarettes here, that your product is illegal. Or it is you want to skirt the legalities and set up a shop along the border and look for cross border nicotine tourists. It is what you want.
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I really don't understand if I can so easily buy cigarettes here, that your product is illegal.
Well, cigarettes are taxed at 57% here and 80% in some other countries, they're sold by a longterm established industry which has allowances, controls, agreements with the state, heavy processes. Not to mention lobbies and political implications and they've been studied for years now.

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Or it is you want to skirt the legalities and set up a shop along the border and look for cross border nicotine tourists. It is what you want.
As I explained to you before, all I want is sell some of my imported products legally. I don't want to skirt anything at all, I just want a legal way of selling a legal product, out of swiss territory to swiss citizens.

Here you'll find a few links that might interest you, shall you ever come to use these products or shall you have any other doubts about my word. All in french:
http://www.cipretvaud.ch/wp/wp-conte...-CFPT_2012.pdf
http://www.cipretvaud.ch/wp/cigarette-electronique/
http://www.tdg.ch/geneve/actu-genevo...story/26267728

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Well, cigarettes are taxed at 57% here and 80% in some other countries, they're sold by a longterm established industry which has allowances, controls, agreements with the state, heavy processes. Not to mention lobbies and political implications and they've been studied for years now.


As I explained to you before, all I want is sell some of my imported products legally. I don't want to skirt anything at all, I just want a legal way of selling a legal product, out of swiss territory to swiss citizens.

Here you'll find a few links that might interest you, shall you ever come to use these products or shall you have any other doubts about my word. All in french:
http://www.cipretvaud.ch/wp/wp-conte...-CFPT_2012.pdf
http://www.cipretvaud.ch/wp/cigarette-electronique/
http://www.tdg.ch/geneve/actu-genevo...story/26267728

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You know, I am consumer like anyone else. I wanted to know an answer, just like you do. If you are doing something legal, everything I have a question for, will not matter if you have demand from your customers.


I want to know if a product I would purchase is coming into my possession legally. In the USA we know all about skirting the law when comes to our trade embargo with Cuba. Almost everything sold or made there, with the exception of contraband, should be legal in the USA. But for one certain reason it is not. Still people go about "skirting" the rules to get their product to US customers. I know that game. And I know that in American publications Canadian cigar sellers advertise their product for ordering from Canada, or to pick up in Canada as a tobacco product, as tobacco is legal in the USA, but not if it is coming from Cuba.


So you will have to pardon me if I think your plan is suspicious, and I have questions. This is not the USA, nor Canada, but it sounds like the same premise. I am sure that Switzerland would prefer you open up shop there, pay their taxes, and be under their regulation. You want to do it your way.


I just wanted to understand why that is.
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I would definitely prefer to open up a shop in Geneva and I may do, as well, once the business runs only I know that so far, the shop could not sell some of the most profitable goods. Yet people could taste all of the flavours.

Now that you mention skirting or frauding, I've choosen a few UK/US providers for the liquids and I have heard some do actually buy their stuff in China or Easter Europe, which is exactly what I want. Made in the US or made in UK sometimes means the product was "assembled" there but most of the contents are from somewhere else. Is that something people do alot in the US?

I totally forgive you for asking questions about a product you'll probably never buy and I am pleased to explain. One thing you are right about is that I'm use to do things my own way, but when I do I follow the rules.
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Sh**, I meant:

, which is exactly what I dont want!

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I would definitely prefer to open up a shop in Geneva and I may do, as well, once the business runs only I know that so far, the shop could not sell some of the most profitable goods. Yet people could taste all of the flavours.

Now that you mention skirting or frauding, I've choosen a few UK/US providers for the liquids and I have heard some do actually buy their stuff in China or Easter Europe, which is exactly what I want. Made in the US or made in UK sometimes means the product was "assembled" there but most of the contents are from somewhere else. Is that something people do alot in the US?

I totally forgive you for asking questions about a product you'll probably never
buy and I am pleased to explain. One thing you are right about is that I'm use to do things my own way, but when I do I follow the rules.
No, that is a common thing the world over, including here in Switzerland. I am sure you thought that was going to be a dig on me or Brits. I never said American business people all were correct.


I don't know why you presume that I would never buy your product. I mean, you should probably presume that I would never buy your product, but the product you are selling, I could buy from someone else that is more understanding of my concerns.


I have probably purchased about a few hundred cartons of cigarettes over the years, including some of that nicotine patches, gums, and so forth. You are assuming because I do not smoke, I have no friends that smoke.
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I so want to know what I can't buy here but can buy in the EU and then personally import to Switzerland.
I think Kosher meat is one example.
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