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Old 04.07.2016, 12:05
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Re: Becoming self-employed in Ticino [EU citizen]

The quotas you mention are only for non-EU nationals. What the quota limits will be for EU nationals if the safeguard clause does kick in no one knows yet. There's no information on whether there will be an immediate restriction on EU nationals; the safeguard clause works on a proportion of new arrivals against whatever figure Parliament decides is too many.

https://www.eda.admin.ch/content/dam...MEI_JAI_EN.pdf

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...wanderung.html

You could, but what's the point when you can come as a sole trader and set up straight away without needing someone else as a director?
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Re: Becoming self-employed in Ticino [EU citizen]

Regarding quotas, this is the link I saw

http://blogs.deloitte.ch/tax/2015/11...-for-2016.html
And it appears to say that there are (separate) quotas also for EU.

The reason to open a company (rather than sole trader) because I read that they give permits more easily if it is through a company, as obviously investing 20,000 as capital shows more commitment rather than a sole trader.
Any more thoughts on this?
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Re: Becoming self-employed in Ticino [EU citizen]

Again, if you read properly, it's referring to quotas for EU nationals being sent here on assignment.

"EU/EFTA nationals working in Switzerland on assignment (with no Swiss employment contract) for more than 4 months/120 days are not covered by the Agreement on the Free Movement of Persons and are also subject to quota. For 2016, the Federal Council will issue a total of 2250 quotas (250 for B permits and 2000 for L permits). These quotas are released quarterly and are not distributed to the cantons."

These are people who fall outside the up to 90 days a year working in Switzerland which can be done under the pre-registration scheme, but don't qualify for a "proper" permit as they're not working for a Swiss employer.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...verfahren.html

This has nothing to do with any future quotas on EU nationals that might come about because of the implementation of the safeguard clause.

I guess it might depend on the canton how favourably they look on a sole trader as opposed to a GmbH or similar, but you'd have to ask the Ticino tax/migration offices. Frankly, if you're prepared to take the risk and are going to be bringing money into the economy I doubt that they'd care that much which form you choose.
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Re: Becoming self-employed in Ticino [EU citizen]

Thanks for your reply - that was an excellent explanation and now I understand.

Does anyone have experience of someone who that provides Swiss directorships to facilitate opening a company (in Ticino). Language is not an issue obviously as I speak Italian, so it doesn't necessarily have to be a high-end international service provider.

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Re: Becoming self-employed in Ticino [EU citizen]

No idea. Don't know if this will help you at all.

http://www4.ti.ch/fileadmin/DFE/DE-U...pernico_en.pdf

You could try contacting them and see if they know of any businesses that offer this service down there.
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Thanks for your reply - that was an excellent explanation and now I understand.

Does anyone have experience of someone who that provides Swiss directorships to facilitate opening a company (in Ticino). Language is not an issue obviously as I speak Italian, so it doesn't necessarily have to be a high-end international service provider.

Thanks again
You mentioned that you are planning to move to Ticino. To form either a Swiss GmbH/sagl or AG/SA, a director needs to be resident in Switzerland, which could then be you:

http://www.gruenden.ch/en/founding-p...tal-companies/

A list of Treuhands/ fiduciaries for Ticino can be found at this website:

http://www.treuhandsuisse-zh.ch/de/u...lieder-suchen/

For "Kanton", select on "Tessin".

You might reflect on whether a legal entity is needed or whether a sole proprietorship might be sufficient.
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Re: Becoming self-employed in Ticino

Hi (resurrecting this thread again!)
I have a question regarding what you mentioned about being an employee of a company. By reading the info on the Swiss portal, I read that it is (in theory) possible to apply for a permit B as someone who does NOT earn in Switzerland, but abroad. This is the Italian link for Ticino
http://www4.ti.ch/fileadmin/DI/Formu...ei-redditi.pdf
So in theory one could put earnings in a company abroad (together with spouse's earnings) and if these are above a certain threshold (together with the other requirements for rental contract etc.), then they should give a permit B.
Also here is a link which is used to calculate whether funds are sufficient or not, but not sure if this is out of date.
http://www4.ti.ch/fileadmin/DI/Formu...finanziari.pdf
Any thoughts on this?

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As fatmanfilms says, you can't apply for a permit until you're physically in the country. And I would add that's likely to be here physically permanently, rather than on holiday. What you could do is come over for a holiday and talk to the migration office in Ticino then so you know exactly what you need to do. I don't think you need an agency to help you, but talk to the migration office first and then decide after that. Or contact them by phone or internet here:

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Yes, of course, showing your financial status will help your case. However, good your business plan if you don't have any finances to back it up with they'd be crazy to grant you a permit. You have the added benefit of showing that your company is already successful and that your move is for personal reasons.

My only small concern, reading your first post again, is whether you write apps for more than one company/product. If you don't and it's all for say Apple's I-phone then there may be a chance the Swiss may see you as an employee of Apple rather than as self-employed. But that's something you can check out when you contact the migration office.
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