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Business type for a developement start-up

Hello,


My project is to become an entrepreneur in software development but I wonder what kind of corporate name ("raison social" in french, not sure in english) do I have to choose.


- Self entrepreneur?
- SÓrl?
- AG/SA?
- ...


Actually I'm alone but maybe someone will join me into this project and in the future when the business will grow I want to hire people or find an associate, so what kind of "raison social" do I have to choose at this time?


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Old 25.11.2014, 13:47
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Re: Business type for a developement start-up

The question may be what can you afford? Sole trader doesn't require any funds up front, but a GmbH needs 20,000 and iirc an AG needs 50,000.

What exactly are you going to be doing? Developing software to sell or working on software for other people? If the latter then a GmbH may be better.
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Re: Business type for a developement start-up

Hi, thanks for you answer.


More precisely what I plan to do at the beggining is develop some iOS and Android application by myself or maybe with my girlfriend, then I plan to found an associate for graphic design and later hire some employees.


I want to start correctly, have a company name, a domain name on internet and a professional email. Actually I didn't really need an official company but I do not want to change everythings (name, mail etc.) the days it grow as I plan.


Sole entrepreneur seems to be the good choice but in the future I plan to give part of the society to an associate but we couldn't do this as sole entrepreneur.


Does I have to start as self entrepreneur with a non officialy name and in the future register this name as a SÓrl?
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Re: Business type for a developement start-up

No, you can start with a GmbH if you want providing you have the funds. If you go for a sole trader the company name must include your family/last name too. So "Smith's Plumbing" or "Jones' Pharmaceuticals" for example. Doesn't necessarily have to be at the front, but it does need to be included.

This site might help with more info on the different types and requirements.

http://www.gruenden.ch/en/
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Re: Business type for a developement start-up

So I only have this two options?

I didn't have the funds actually but if I'm in a partnership am I obligated to make a SÓrl(Gmbh)?

In any case thank you very much for your promp answer.
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So I only have this two options?
No not really you do have more options but the SVA are the Jedi masters and be advised by them. Best thing you can do is contact your local SVA office, talk to them and explain your specific ideas and situation. Take your business plan, source of funds, and customers etc and they will tell you exactly which is the best business entity, what the cost and payments will be etc.
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No, there are other types of partnerships.

http://www.gruenden.ch/en/founding-p.../partnerships/

Best to follow Papa Goose's advice and contact SVA - whoever they are? Enlighten us Papa Goose please.
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contact SVA - whoever they are? Enlighten us Papa Goose please.
For someone who post regularly on these matter, I would presume that you would know the institution who determine whether someone is self employed or not and with whom you register for payment of AHV etc.

https://www.svazurich.ch/internet/de/home/sva.html is the kantonal office for ZŘrich.

OP, there are people who regularly post information which is out of date or not applicable to your situation, so if you want to know precisely contact your local office who will tell you exactly what you should do and how to proceed.
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Nope, never heard of SVA which is why I asked. Thanks, Papa Goose, I'll add it to my list of useful info.
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Nope, never heard of SVA which is why I asked. Thanks, Papa Goose, I'll add it to my list of useful info.
I don't know the French/Italian names for the offices, but the one in ZŘrich is super helpful with all aspects of setting up an enterprise, and with courses if you need it.

The lady who is my contact actually went over all my stuff initially, advised a different route than I had been told about, completed all the forms and was always on hand to answer any onging questions.
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Re: Business type for a developement start-up

Hi Papa Goose, thanks for aswering.

Your advise is to pay for a professional service who know how to do. Before I do that I should have a BP, funds etc. thats the second part for me.

So I will go ahead with my project and come back with more information.
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No, my advise is to got to the SVA who are the agency who control, advise and administer the process of obtaining an appropriate business entity... where did you get a charge from?
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Ahh so it's an official "cantonal" department and charge free. I don't speak german it's a misunderstanding.

I will search if there is an equivalent of the SVA around Bienne.
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