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Do you mean to say that you have near constant access to my currently favorite ice cream... Dangerous place that must be to live in!
I make my own favourite ice-cream, right here in my kitchen- no need for a shop, anytime
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Old 06.10.2015, 22:16
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Wouldn't it be cool if Migros had mobile grocery stores operating out of the back of little trucks?

I bet they've never thought of that!
Hi Dougal. Wonderful point. Never seen anything like this, while we have been around here in CH for the last 5 years. Indeed a business opportunity for Migros of the world or any wannabie entreprenuer here on EG.
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Old 06.10.2015, 22:23
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Hi Dougal. Wonderful point. Never seen anything like this, while we have been around here in CH for the last 5 years. Indeed a business opportunity for Migros of the world or any wannabie entreprenuer here on EG.
Migros started with it in 1925...
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Old 06.10.2015, 22:25
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Quite likely. But they got replaced by super markets and shopping malls.



I couldn't agree more, every location has advantages and disadvantages. However, OP seems to want to live in the relative green and still have all amenities withing stone-throwing distance. OP wants the advantages without the disadvantages.
Hi Urs. You kinda got it right. Not wanting to be spoiled, but with 2 small kids, long office hours - it's just that one would wish that shopping is not as complex and tedious as it is right now. We end up doing shopping once a week (Sat), and do stock things (fridge + cupboards in kitchen) - but sometimes, you need something - and gosh - going 3 KM up & down is an ask indeed...Not being lazy, but....
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Old 06.10.2015, 22:30
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I'm surprised nobody suggested the OP opens and operates their own local shop.

More income, more convenience. What more could one want?
Hi Sean. Wonderful idea. If Geminde does allow opening a shop in a residential area - I am sure I / other residents in our area (who I assume / am sure might be having a similar need) would be more than happy to open one here. I guess , even if it's incrementally more expensive than Migros et all - it would be worth the convenience.
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Old 07.10.2015, 07:55
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Hi Urs. You kinda got it right. Not wanting to be spoiled, but with 2 small kids, long office hours - it's just that one would wish that shopping is not as complex and tedious as it is right now. We end up doing shopping once a week (Sat), and do stock things (fridge + cupboards in kitchen) - but sometimes, you need something - and gosh - going 3 KM up & down is an ask indeed...Not being lazy, but....
So to clarify - you work long office hours, which would suggest you don't work from home meaning that you will be traveling by public transport (as your complaint is about walking 1.5km you don't have a car). Why not stop at either the COOP or Migros in Adliswil on your way through?

Then I look at the map again - and only if you live up right on the edge of Adliswil (Waldistrasse for example - up at the Wildpark) are you 1.5km away from a shop - at which point it could be argued you go to the Wildpark train station.

It is coming across as you being lazy and inept rather than a failure in coverage by either Migros of Coop
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Living in Germany 20 years ago was a real culture shock. That was in the days when the shops were only open on Saturday afternoons once a month and even then only until 4pm.
Those were that days that on Satrurday afternoon, all the shops here would be full of Germans!

(nowadays, they still are, but only because they work there )

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Old 07.10.2015, 08:19
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Those were that days that on Satrurday afternoon, all the shops here would be full of Germans!

(nowadays, they still are, but only because they work there )

Tom
What? They went all the way to Ticino for shopping?
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What? They went all the way to Ticino for shopping?
Don't be daft - they went all the way to Ticino to see Tom and his collection of motorbikes - and did some shopping while they were there (probably while Tom had lunch).

It is estimated that tourist revenues fell by 20% once Tom stopped taking visits from random people.
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Mate, when we moved here, there were!

In our neighbouhood in the 50ies/60ies, we had a shop for skis etc within 100 meters, 4 bakeries within 500 meters, a butcher within 200 meters, a grocery within 100 meters, a shoemaker within 200 meters, 4 bicycle mechanics within 500 meters --- mostly gone
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(probably while Tom had lunch).
You're the one being daft now. Tom doesn't have lunch.

(Or so he tells us)
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Hi Urs. You kinda got it right. Not wanting to be spoiled, but with 2 small kids, long office hours - it's just that one would wish that shopping is not as complex and tedious as it is right now. We end up doing shopping once a week (Sat), and do stock things (fridge + cupboards in kitchen) - but sometimes, you need something - and gosh - going 3 KM up & down is an ask indeed...Not being lazy, but....
Don't forget - you can always ask a neighbour - OK, maybe they won't have nappies but there is hardly anything you can't live without for a while. And if it happens more than once in a blue moon then your shopping list needs to be re-scanned. Methinks.
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Re: Absence of small shopping outlet in neighbourhood

Every village used to have their own bakery, butcher, épicerie back in the 1950/60's but with the advent of available transport and large super markets under cutting on price and using their scale for purchasing power drove 90% of these small stores out of business.

Quite simply they are not economically viable, you cannot make a living out of such an enterprise and so.........they've all disapearted and we were left wit the Coop/Migros duopoly which is just now begining to change with the emergence of Aldi/Lidl chain.


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Mate, when we moved here, there were!
You people should have bought there more often, instead of buying from the cheaper Migros/Coop/Manor/etc., thereby driving the small local (often specialised) stores out of business.
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You people should have bought there more often, instead of buying from the cheaper Migros/Coop/Manor/etc., thereby driving the small local (often specialised) stores out of business.
That's rather a presumptuous statement, don't you think?
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Re: Absence of small shopping outlet in neighbourhood

It is strange, though, that independent grocery stores seem to be thriving elsewhere in Europe, yet are something of a rare breed in Switzerland.

What is special about the Swiss market that has resulted in this state of affairs?
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What is special about the Swiss market that has resulted in this state of affairs?
Rent. And space. And that everyone wants to make 120k.
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Migros started with it in 1925...
.. and stopped with it in 2007.

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you do not need a fridge if you have a decent cellar
My cellar is very small and apart from wines I cannot store much in there. We keep our skiing equipment and things like that and it is already full.
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Re: Absence of small shopping outlet in neighbourhood


in ZCH 8038, they stopped with it in 1964 when M opened the then gigantic M Supermarkt Morgental


The concept was started to fill the gap until enough Shops were around
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