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Re: How to freelance in Switzerland?

Yesterday I had a great interview with the managing director of a small company in Lausanne. He's willing to take me on as a consultant for one or two days a month. Since I don't want to irritate my current employer, I now have to check if my terms of employment allow me to do that (the two activities are not competitive).

My question is: as an EU citizen, am I correct in assuming that this work and its associated income are outside the Swiss tax and legal system, from my point of view?

If I go ahead, I plan to set myself up as a French one man company, which will open me up to my adopted country's punitive tax laws (after 15 years working in Geneva, I'd forgotten how much you have to give away).

All thoughts and suggestions welcome (apart from witty remarks about French taxes) .
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Yesterday I had a great interview with the managing director of a small company in Lausanne. He's willing to take me on as a consultant for one or two days a month. Since I don't want to irritate my current employer, I now have to check if my terms of employment allow me to do that (the two activities are not competitive).

My question is: as an EU citizen, am I correct in assuming that this work and its associated income are outside the Swiss tax and legal system, from my point of view?

If I go ahead, I plan to set myself up as a French one man company, which will open me up to my adopted country's punitive tax laws (after 15 years working in Geneva, I'd forgotten how much you have to give away).

All thoughts and suggestions welcome (apart from witty remarks about French taxes) .
French taxes aren't too bad compared to Dutch ones (45% income tax) as far as I know :P

From the little I know about international tax law the main factor which determines where you should pay taxes is about where you have your actual life. So for the tax man it doesn't matter where you work, it doesn't matter where you live on paper: the only thing that matters is where you actually are MOST of the time.

In your case: if you're paid by a Swiss employer but live and work mostly in France than you pay taxes in France over the Swiss income. No doubt it will be a total hassle (paperwork) to convince the Swiss taxman that you don't need to pay taxes over the Swiss income but as far as I know that's how it works in theory.
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Yesterday I had a great interview with the managing director of a small company in Lausanne. He's willing to take me on as a consultant for one or two days a month. Since I don't want to irritate my current employer, I now have to check if my terms of employment allow me to do that (the two activities are not competitive).

My question is: as an EU citizen, am I correct in assuming that this work and its associated income are outside the Swiss tax and legal system, from my point of view?

If I go ahead, I plan to set myself up as a French one man company, which will open me up to my adopted country's punitive tax laws (after 15 years working in Geneva, I'd forgotten how much you have to give away).

All thoughts and suggestions welcome (apart from witty remarks about French taxes) .
Your risk is you become liable to FULL French tax on your Swiss income, the exemption is to people who earn in excess of 90% of their income in CH. Tread very carefully or move to CH.

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In your case: if you're paid by a Swiss employer but live and work mostly in France than you pay taxes in France over the Swiss income. No doubt it will be a total hassle (paperwork) to convince the Swiss taxman that you don't need to pay taxes over the Swiss income but as far as I know that's how it works in theory.[/QUOTE]

Incorrect for someone working in Geneva & living in France.
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Can anyone recommend an agency in Basel?

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I have found a job in Basel and am looking for an agency to represent me. Does anyone have any recommendations and what would a typical commission rate be?


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Hi folks,


I have found a job in Basel and am looking for an agency to represent me. Does anyone have any recommendations and what would a typical commission rate be?


Thank you for your help,

Danny
I'm in similar situation like you. IT contractor, one of the pharma's in Basel

I've asked some companies which are officially listed as "preferred supplier" of my customer.
I think it is possible to get payroll offers with 5% margin, if you have already an offer from customer. Besides of this, you have to pay from your revenue all social insurances, for both sides - employee and employer. Quellensteuer also, of course.

Interesting thing that different payroller list in their sample calculations not the same social fee's. AHV, ALV are of course always listet with the same percentage, but beside of this there are other fees which differs between payroll calculations.

For me was important to stretch my salary over longer period: i.e. I work only 4 months but want to be payed over 6 or 7 (with less salary of course). That seems to be difficult to reach.

Maybe we can share our experiences...
Do you have someone in Basel who can make an expertise of a payroll contract?
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Re: Can anyone recommend an agency in Basel?

I have been having a mixed time. Trying to get agencies to put their % in writing is a real pain. Trying to get employed as a company rather than as an individual is likewise tricky.

I have had some recommendations of people from other contractors and I can send them to you if you would like. I have no personal experience as yet.
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I have been having a mixed time. Trying to get agencies to put their % in writing is a real pain. Trying to get employed as a company rather than as an individual is likewise tricky.

I have had some recommendations of people from other contractors and I can send them to you if you would like. I have no personal experience as yet.
Yes, please send me recommended agencies. I'll send you mine.

Do you mean that doesn't make sense to establish a swiss GmbH for freelancing?
I've seriously considered this option, but for my load that would be probably too expensive.

My experience is also that payroll' calculations are fully nontransparent. But at least the base salary in most cases is noticeable, the rest mainly doesn't differ. So I compare just base salaries.

Maybe there is a site for rating of employers generally and particularly agencies?
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Do not believe that a GmbH or AG for that matter protects your private assets from being "acquired" it just introduces limits and rules for it. Furthermore it is not just your private money the courts can seize it is you and all your assets and potentially future earnings...

Yes there are company insurance policies but it depends what for. They generally cover services that are badly given. ie you paint a wall and as a consequence of the wrong type of paint used the surface of the ming vase becomes milky...

There are no problems with using your own bank account it just becomes appreciatively more difficult to do things on the tax front. I mean that is one of the primary advantages of being self employed and if you cannot separate your business dealings from your life then you are going to run into problems in the short term!

And your tip is the first reason you should have a business account. I do take it that you will rent out a room of your house to your company and inform the town hall (gemeinde) that you are doing this. That way you are properly covered...
I have a question about the name of an Einzelfirma as well..

e.g. If my surname is Smith can I have my business name (to include surname) as "Natural Products by Smith"? Can the website be naturalproducts.com?

This whole thread got me confused alot.

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Old 23.12.2014, 17:34
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Re: How to freelance in Switzerland?

I think it would more likely have to be something like Smith's Natural Products, but yes I believe the website could just be "naturalproducts.com". It would obviously need to disclose the full name of the company somewhere I would think as would any letterheads, etc.

Best thing to do is ask your cantonal migration office what their rules are for that sort of thing.
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Old 26.12.2014, 15:31
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Re: How to freelance in Switzerland?

Oh, well... I am self employed since 1997. If I look back, I had maybe half a dozen "Einzelfirmen" in my life. No problems if your website is called naturalproducts.ch. If you start your business in the german speaking part it should be naturprodukte.ch of course.

If you work as a freelance/self employee it's up to you to check whether you have to pay VAT or whatsover. In general it's just a fait accompli. You don't need permission. In theory you have to register your "Einzelfirma" at the Handelsregister if you make more than 100'000. If you do so, it must contain your family name (Smith Naturprodukte or whatsoever).
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I have a question about the name of an Einzelfirma as well..

e.g. If my surname is Smith can I have my business name (to include surname) as "Natural Products by Smith"? Can the website be naturalproducts.com?

This whole thread got me confused alot.

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I think it would more likely have to be something like Smith's Natural Products, but yes I believe the website could just be "naturalproducts.com". It would obviously need to disclose the full name of the company somewhere I would think as would any letterheads, etc.

Best thing to do is ask your cantonal migration office what their rules are for that sort of thing.

I have inquired about it. It seems like there is no issue to have the company name the way you want but must include your family name if it is a einzelfirma.


so I think taking your example" Smith natural products" and " Natural products by Smith" should both be ok.
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I have inquired about it. It seems like there is no issue to have the company name the way you want but must include your family name if it is a einzelfirma.


so I think taking your example" Smith natural products" and " Natural products by Smith" should both be ok.


forget to ask if the website address needs to have the family name too?
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forget to ask if the website address needs to have the family name too?
Clearly not, however details of the name of the business need to be stated on the website.
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I have inquired about it. It seems like there is no issue to have the company name the way you want but must include your family name if it is a einzelfirma.


so I think taking your example" Smith natural products" and " Natural products by Smith" should both be ok.
Statement in the contact area something like Natural Products ist eine Marke der Natural products by Smith
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Re: How to freelance in Switzerland?

Source: I'm a freelancer and among other things make websites for a living.

You don't need the web address to include your name, but you do need to write your Full Name every time you use the pseudo-name you chose as a sort of firm name.

If you are a freelance your firm name is just more like a description or slogan but your full name is always required because you as a person are the company itself.

So you could have your webpage feature a big text title "Nature products" and underneath a smaller text "by Name Surname"

I honestly don't think that just the Surname will be enough since it would be too vague.
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Source: I'm a freelancer and among other things make websites for a living.

You don't need the web address to include your name, but you do need to write your Full Name every time you use the pseudo-name you chose as a sort of firm name.

If you are a freelance your firm name is just more like a description or slogan but your full name is always required because you as a person are the company itself.

So you could have your webpage feature a big text title "Nature products" and underneath a smaller text "by Name Surname"

I honestly don't think that just the Surname will be enough since it would be too vague.
Has this ever been enforced?
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Re: How to freelance in Switzerland?

Since you are a web designer there are many websites online where you can get good amount of work from across the globe. Probably you should explore options like these https://www.freelancer.ca/?t=f&utm_e...w.google.ca%2F
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Source: I'm a freelancer and among other things make websites for a living.

You don't need the web address to include your name, but you do need to write your Full Name every time you use the pseudo-name you chose as a sort of firm name.

If you are a freelance your firm name is just more like a description or slogan but your full name is always required because you as a person are the company itself.

So you could have your webpage feature a big text title "Nature products" and underneath a smaller text "by Name Surname"

I honestly don't think that just the Surname will be enough since it would be too vague.
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I will check on this as well. Interesting.
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Re: How to freelance in Switzerland?

Hi everyone!

I am so happy threads like this exist Thank you all for sharing your knowledge and experience!

If I am not mistaken I only have to fill a form at AHV and then it all depends on how much I make.

I do have a few questions of my own as well.

1. Can I register as a self employed person and have a 50% job on the side?
2. I have a B permit that lasts until September, is a prolongation in danger if I don't succeed in obtaining much business as a freelancer and only have a 50% job?
3. Do I have to be registered as self-employed to get a job?
4. Do I have to have a website, business card from the start?

I would try to get short-term contrats for food styling and photography if maybe this sheds some light on the nature of my questions.

Thank you so much for your help!
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