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Old 17.01.2009, 11:08
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I am an EU (German) citizen in Switzerland on a student B permit (I have to renew the permit every year, prove I'm still a student, etc.) Also, I'm in Zurich - I see your info above is on Zug.

If I quit school and want to stay in Switzerland and freelance/be an Einzelfirma I'm hoping I can do the above (produce business plan, tell Gemeinde, register with AHV) and turn my student B permit into a 5-year B permit. Anyone see any gotchas with this? Might my current student status somehow preclude this?

Thanks everyone for a VERY helpful thread! (Where's the stupid thankyou button?!?)
Axxxxe,

I don't think you being on student B permit would create any barriers for migrating to a freelancer's B permit. I found the key challenge with getting yourself self-employed (especially if you're in a consultancy/short-term project business) is to have three or more invoices/Rechnungen or at least Requests for Quotation as they want to see if you pass the several unrelated client test.

The rest should go smooth.

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Old 22.01.2009, 15:33
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Re: How to freelance in Switzerland?

Thanks Groovy!

Another question: let's say I'd like to fish around for work while still on my student permit, with the plan to migrate to self-employment/Einzelfirma during 2009 if the business works out.

Is it ok for me to advertise during this pre-Einzelfirma period? If I want to put an ad in the AWC newsletter (http://www.awczurich.org/), for example, am I breaking any laws? In the ad I would name myself following the Einzelfirma naming rules (using my surname in the business name, etc.) so I wouldn't have to change the ad if/when I go Einzelfirma...
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Old 23.01.2009, 12:25
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Thanks Groovy!

Another question: let's say I'd like to fish around for work while still on my student permit, with the plan to migrate to self-employment/Einzelfirma during 2009 if the business works out.

Is it ok for me to advertise during this pre-Einzelfirma period? If I want to put an ad in the AWC newsletter (http://www.awczurich.org/), for example, am I breaking any laws? In the ad I would name myself following the Einzelfirma naming rules (using my surname in the business name, etc.) so I wouldn't have to change the ad if/when I go Einzelfirma...
Axxxxe,

i don't see how you'd be breaking any laws by putting an add. In fact, Einzelfirma in some cantons is not necessary for a self-employment status unless you reach a certain revenue benchmark (75K-100Kchf a year). Up until then no need to bother even going to Handelsregister if your revenues don't shoot up to this point.

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Re: How to freelance in Switzerland?

Anyway, I want to bump this up again for some more infos!!!

My gf's business is registered in the UK and it's a Sole Trade Company! She tries to get clients in the UK and in Switzerland! Now my question is, does the company has to be registered in Switzerland aswell or is it enough to just contact the AHV and ensure them that all the taxes will be paid? As it's a new business we are still promoting and finding clients so we haven't earnd anything yet!

I'd appreciate all of ur help asap!
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Old 06.02.2009, 10:04
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Anyway, I want to bump this up again for some more infos!!!

My gf's business is registered in the UK and it's a Sole Trade Company! She tries to get clients in the UK and in Switzerland! Now my question is, does the company has to be registered in Switzerland aswell or is it enough to just contact the AHV and ensure them that all the taxes will be paid? As it's a new business we are still promoting and finding clients so we haven't earnd anything yet!

I'd appreciate all of ur help asap!
Would you like us to read this thread for you and report back? Or will you do it??
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Re: How to freelance in Switzerland?

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I already read it but it's not really clear! Correct me if I'm wrong. I called the Migration Luzern, they said, if the company is based in the UK I just need to send a Bewilliungsgesuch and enclude a Business Plan to it and they said it would be accepted! But I have read about AHV etc. And doesn't the business need to be registered in Switzerland aswell? The funny thing is, I asked those people at the Migration and they said, it doesn't have to be based here! So it means, it doesn't have to be registered here aswell???
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Re: How to freelance in Switzerland?

If you'd look around, there are lots of answers here in EF.

One thing I would like to mention, is that each Canton has their own set
of fine lines that they work with. This is obvious in the various situations
and answers seen here on EF. Also, seen a number of times, is the
inconsistency in the answers received from someone on the telephone.

Good luck!
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Re: How to freelance in Switzerland?

As far I have set up a good business plan for my sole trader company that I want to register here!

I just have one problem - the forecast! Since the business was just registered and opened on Feb. 5th...how will I know all the financial stuff already? And since it's a sole trader, I don't need ein Eigenkapital anyway...so...how am I supposed to do this? Can anyone give me an example?

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Old 09.02.2009, 17:55
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As far I have set up a good business plan for my sole trader company that I want to register here!

I just have one problem - the forecast! Since the business was just registered and opened on Feb. 5th...how will I know all the financial stuff already? And since it's a sole trader, I don't need ein Eigenkapital anyway...so...how am I supposed to do this? Can anyone give me an example?

THANKS A BUNCH
Why do you want to register it? It's not necessary...
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Re: How to freelance in Switzerland?

Because the business has just been registered and opened in the UK...don't I need to register it at the Handelsregiesteramt of my canton to be legal?
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As far I have set up a good business plan for my sole trader company that I want to register here!

I just have one problem - the forecast! Since the business was just registered and opened on Feb. 5th...how will I know all the financial stuff already? And since it's a sole trader, I don't need ein Eigenkapital anyway...so...how am I supposed to do this? Can anyone give me an example?

THANKS A BUNCH
How do you know your business will make you a profit? If you don't know, then you shouldn't be doing it. If you do know, then you have enough information to produce a forecast.

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Because the business has just been registered and opened in the UK...don't I need to register it at the Handelsregiesteramt of my canton to be legal?
That depends on yoru turnover.
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Re: How to freelance in Switzerland?

I've just set up as a freelancer, and it was really simple and cost next to nothing (just a small translation fee to get my forms done in the local lingo to avoid any problems).

: First you need to have an AVS number (what it's called in Suisse Romande), it's like a UK national insurance number.
: Then you need to register as being Independent by completing the relevant AVS forms, your local AVS office will give these to you.
: Then you just have to keep a complete set of books, get these checked by a local accountant for good measure once a year, and then put your profit down on your tax statement.
: If you earn less than chf 70k a year, then you don't have to register a TVA number, and everything is nice and simple.

Voilà!
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Old 12.02.2009, 21:12
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I've just set up as a freelancer, and it was really simple and cost next to nothing (just a small translation fee to get my forms done in the local lingo to avoid any problems).

: First you need to have an AVS number (what it's called in Suisse Romande), it's like a UK national insurance number.
: Then you need to register as being Independent by completing the relevant AVS forms, your local AVS office will give these to you.
: Then you just have to keep a complete set of books, get these checked by a local accountant for good measure once a year, and then put your profit down on your tax statement.
: If you earn less than chf 70k a year, then you don't have to register a TVA number, and everything is nice and simple.

Voilà!
I've been saying that here since 2006, but every one wants to mak it more complicated...
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Re: How to freelance in Switzerland?

BTW, does someone know any good BUSINESS MENTORS???
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BTW, does someone know any good BUSINESS MENTORS???

Yes. I am personally acquainted with Steve.

He's not cheap though - based in HK but he comes to Europe quite regularly.
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Re: How to freelance in Switzerland?

I have a similar question. I am an American and my fiance (also American) plans to accept a postdoc position in Zurich. We are planning to marry before we relocate to Switzerland; however, I am concerned about my work status. I am a freelance editor, and I would like to continue to work as a freelancer for my American clients. I will not be trying to pick up Swiss clients while we are in Switzerland, and I will still be paid in American dollars, which will be deposited in my American bank account. This is what I would like to do, but I am having difficulty finding information as to whether it is actually possible to do this legally without declaring myself an independent in Switzerland. I would appreciate any help/advice anyone can offer. Thanks!
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Re: How to freelance in Switzerland?

Hi there. I have been working as a freelance journo here for the last year and am also only working for foreign publications and being paid in Sterling. The Zurich tax authorities don't have a problem with that at all. You need to register with the AHV (there is a fairly simple form to fill out - call them, they are very helpful - SVA Zurich 044 448 50 00).
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Re: How to freelance in Switzerland?

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I have a similar question. I am an American and my fiance (also American) plans to accept a postdoc position in Zurich. We are planning to marry before we relocate to Switzerland; however, I am concerned about my work status. I am a freelance editor, and I would like to continue to work as a freelancer for my American clients. I will not be trying to pick up Swiss clients while we are in Switzerland, and I will still be paid in American dollars, which will be deposited in my American bank account. This is what I would like to do, but I am having difficulty finding information as to whether it is actually possible to do this legally without declaring myself an independent in Switzerland. I would appreciate any help/advice anyone can offer. Thanks!
  • You must pay Swiss taxes on global income and global assets.
  • You must pay Swiss social security contributions (AHV is the acronym in German, AVS in French). Rate for self-employed is lower. That is an incentive to be so registered.
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Re: How to freelance in Switzerland?

Thank you so much for the information! I will definitely look into this!
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Re: How to freelance in Switzerland?

Hi, I am about to start my own art business near Zurich After some research, this is what I found:

- There is no need to register a business if there are no other employees or partners, it is quite straight forward - I checked with the local police office

- With regard to tax, the tax office told me that at the end of the year I can declare my earnings on my husband's form

- I am actually about to open a business account so that I can also request the pink payment slips to give to my customers, they seems to be quite popular for making payments here in Switzerland.

I was not aware about the AHV form, will have to look into it. But if I get any other additional information I will make sure to post them. I hope this helps. There is been a lot of good advises already, but I suppose this won't hurt!
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