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Maybe if (for some cases) it was simply called: "Minimising error the error term through parameter optimisation using a neural network." it would solve these two problems
"Automated sock sorting machine"?
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Old 12.07.2017, 18:29
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"Automated sock sorting machine"?
You don't need that. The trick is to have only one type of sock.
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Old 12.07.2017, 18:35
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You don't need that. The trick is to have only one type of sock.
I have, but because there's no AI to take over the sorting they fade at different rates. My sock drawer is full of almost identically black socks, with a few grey outliers mixed in.
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Old 12.07.2017, 18:46
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I have, but because there's no AI to take over the sorting they fade at different rates. My sock drawer is full of almost identically black socks, with a few grey outliers mixed in.
as long as you're not wearing shorts or half mast trousers, nobody will see that your socks are slightly different lengths or faded to slightly different degrees.
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as long as you're not wearing shorts or half mast trousers, nobody will see that your socks are slightly different lengths or faded to slightly different degrees.
You misunderstand the problem.

The grey outliers are generally an odd integer. Since the sock population is an even integer I would need to have either a storage location for the odd non grey sock, or discard a perfectly useful black sock. Neither of these "solutions" are suitable.

I'm considering having my feet and ankles tattooed. The other possibility would be to dip my feet in self vulcanizing rubber, which would obviate the need for footwear.
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I also work in Pharma and I just think it means a lot of shysters will get rich quick on the back of leaders who don't want to be blamed for missing the next big 'thing'.

By all means come to us when you have a fully tested, validated platform that's demonstrably better than the current gold standard.. otherwise please don't fill my inbox with any more sales nonsense.
Totally agree.. which is why I'm so 'optimistic'.. I'm really talking about machine learning efforts which are demonstrably better than current manual efforts. Signal detection being one well known example.
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Old 13.07.2017, 13:17
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And whereas the first AI generation may replace truck drivers and street cleaners and usherettes, later generations might be trading stocks and even managing corporations.
There are currently no self driving trucks operational on public roads. There are however fully automated algorythms carrying out trades in the global financial market and have been doing so for years. The 2008 financial crisis was not caused by them, but they certainly played a part: https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...nancial-crisis
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Old 12.09.2017, 23:52
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Re: Do you know an AI ?

Since nobody seems to have brought it up yet, and addressing the OP's concerns: consider the Chinese room argument. People often assume that to make a human-like machine, you just need a powerful enough computer. Then you let it run a really complex neural network and voilà, you have a human-like entity. I think that's a HUGE oversimplification.

To begin with, you don't even need to talk of Asian rooms. Assume you have made an artificial brain which you can try fine tune (and I don't think even that is possible). How in the world are you going to make it think as a person, and not as a sleeping person, or a severely psychotic person, or a bird? We can't even diagnose mental illnesses using brain scans, let alone understand subtler things like the physiology of variations in personality. It's completely hopeless to constrain a machine to be fundamentally like something you'd recognize as one of us.

Nonetheless, it's really cool to make machines that can imitate things that we do.
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Old 13.09.2017, 00:14
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Both won't happen, so we need to find a way to distribute the (new) wealth in a way that people won't riot and burn those self driving trucks, but rather have a better life and benefit from technological progress... if only the big money benefits (once again) will it at some point hit the fan...
Look at the US today. There will be no redistribution. People will endure poverty and die.

I bet pretty much half the people on EF work in some industry which actively channels wealth to the elites.

The UK aristocracy has survived centuries. The French had a revolution.

This time it is different: the masters can produce a huge robotic army to efficiently put down any dissent.
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Old 13.09.2017, 08:41
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Re: Do you know an AI ?

Professor Stephen Hawking has warned superintelligent artificial intelligence could be pivotal in steering humanity's fate, stating that "the potential benefits are huge... Success in creating AI would be the biggest event in human history. It might also be the last, unless we learn how to avoid the risks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephe...re_of_humanity
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Old 13.09.2017, 09:36
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What risk? Would a machine-human not represent the next step in evolution? Homo Sapiens is on the road to extinction, give or take a millennia or two, that seems to be the trend.
Some time ago we had the discussion on the topic of a sentient internet, by it´s self the internet is not sentient but figure in the millions of users then I am not too sure, at best it would represent a symbiosis, at worst... The first question scientists asked an intelligent computer they had built: “Is there a God?” The computer replied, “There is now,”
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Old 13.09.2017, 15:26
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This time it is different: the masters can produce a huge robotic army to efficiently put down any dissent.
They're basically here already. Imagine these things with lidar, radar, night vision, X-ray vision, and shoulder-mounted machine guns and rocket launchers. Or lasers. And in a swarm of 1000, all communicating through a hive mind.




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IMO people really underestimate how quickly the bots and robots will take over.

AlphaGo is able to beat the best humans at the hardest game (Go), with more potential moves than atoms in the universe. It taught itself how to play over the course of a year.

How well do you do your job? Do you really think that a computer program won't be able to teach itself to do it better than you do? A bit of code takes up virtually no space, never gets sick, never has an attitude, never get tired, works 24/7, can upgrade itself, etc. A modern computer can do 20,000 years of human brain work each week, and they're only getting faster.

People talk about driving jobs being automated, but that's just the tip of the iceberg. Mobile general purpose robots will be here before we know it. Cloud based computing and machine learning, together, will allow robots to learn together (one robot learns something, and the knowledge is shared across the net). It won't be long before there is nearly no job that a machine can't do better than a human (or more cost effectively). Advanced computing ability (nanotransisters, eventually quantum computers) will allow information sharing and analysis at high speed. Complex modeling and simulation 1000x+ what we can do know.

The 'technology will create more new, different jobs' view is absurd. There will be no new jobs for humans when robots can do the same, or better, at much less cost. Truck drivers won't be able to retrain overnight to become programmers and coders. Neither will engineers, architects, lawyers, accountants, or even chefs. Before long, the computer will be able to program itself and write it's own code, anyway. Will humans just be left to check for mistakes? That'd be like not trusting a calculator to multiply 64537*928778 correctly...

And all of this tech development and subsequent job loss will occur before we have a general AI. It won't need super intelligence, it's just a matter of having the computational capacity and connecting the dots through code and algorithms.

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Old 16.09.2017, 22:56
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IMO people really underestimate how quickly the bots and robots will take over.

AlphaGo is able to beat the best humans at the hardest game (Go), with more potential moves than atoms in the universe. It taught itself how to play over the course of a year.

How well do you do your job? Do you really think that a computer program won't be able to teach itself to do it better than you do? A bit of code takes up virtually no space, never gets sick, never has an attitude, never get tired, works 24/7, can upgrade itself, etc. A modern computer can do 20,000 years of human brain work each week, and they're only getting faster.

People talk about driving jobs being automated, but that's just the tip of the iceberg. Mobile general purpose robots will be here before we know it. Cloud based computing and machine learning, together, will allow robots to learn together (one robot learns something, and the knowledge is shared across the net). It won't be long before there is nearly no job that a machine can't do better than a human (or more cost effectively). Advanced computing ability (nanotransisters, eventually quantum computers) will allow information sharing and analysis at high speed. Complex modeling and simulation 1000x+ what we can do know.

The 'technology will create more new, different jobs' view is absurd. There will be no new jobs for humans when robots can do the same, or better, at much less cost. Truck drivers won't be able to retrain overnight to become programmers and coders. Neither will engineers, architects, lawyers, accountants, or even chefs. Before long, the computer will be able to program itself and write it's own code, anyway. Will humans just be left to check for mistakes? That'd be like not trusting a calculator to multiply 64537*928778 correctly...

And all of this tech development and subsequent job loss will occur before we have a general AI. It won't need super intelligence, it's just a matter of having the computational capacity and connecting the dots through code and algorithms.

At the end of the day would that not be good news? If done wisely the 1% of the population who rules the earth could let the rest of the human population dwindle to a billion or so and save earth´s resources forever, in the 19th century horses were everywhere until the motorcar came and took their jobs, now in the 21st century horses are still around, just the economy doesn´t need that many anymore.
I for one welcome our robotic overlords.
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Old 19.09.2017, 21:23
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I for one welcome our robotic overlords.
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Old 19.09.2017, 21:30
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Artificial muscle is here!

Will future robots stare at themselves in the mirror, admiring their own artificial pectorals?

https://www.inverse.com/article/3655...nthetic-muscle


At around 1:15 in the video in the link, 13g of electrified material is shown lifting 1000g. Gulp.

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It's like this: all of your worst nightmares about AI are going to happen. Essentially we're doomed (and this may be some sort of answer to the Fermi paradox, but I actually thing we're still a bit early in the universe's evolution).

But that bloody sock machine is still nowhere in sight...
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But that bloody sock machine is still nowhere in sight...


'sock machine', eh?... it looks like it must use the same algorithm as a sexbot.
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