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Re: How can I buy shares in Switzerland?

So what are the options for those of us who'd rather not buy overpriced funds or ETFs?

I want a platform that allows me to trade any kind of instrument on any market (bar the US ones) in small volumes for reasonable (i,e <0.5% per transaction) brokerage fees.

Does anything like that exist here?
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Old 12.11.2017, 22:54
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Re: How can I buy shares in Switzerland?

Swissquote are good and it is selfexplaining if you go to their site. Let me know if you have any issues or questions and I can help as I am using them...
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Re: How can I buy shares in Switzerland?

But with them I'd still be paying over a percent in fees for every order I make (any order below 2500CHF that is).

Maybe I'm being stingy but if the average annual portfolio ROI is 7-8% and I want to do semi-frequent changes in my portfolio then I'd be paying practically all earnings in fees..

To compare: The broker I used to use charged 0.15% per transaction, no account fees and the annual tax for that type of account would amount to 0.125% of the entire porfolio.
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Old 13.11.2017, 00:29
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Re: How can I buy shares in Switzerland?

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So what are the options for those of us who'd rather not buy overpriced funds or ETFs?
Bubbles are everywhere, but how is it exactly related to the rest of your question?

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I want a platform that allows me to trade any kind of instrument on any market (bar the US ones)
Even the biggest brokers don't do all the markets, especially beyond developed world - often you need a local presence or jump through some hoops and loops before you could trade or even can't trade at all because of the color of your passport or because you're not with an institution or at a wrong one. So the answer is your question is no

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To compare: The broker I used to use charged 0.15% per transaction, no account fees and the annual tax for that type of account would amount to 0.125% of the entire porfolio.
Why can't just keep using the same broker if you're happy with them? Living in Switzerland doesn't mean you have to use to swiss brokers with their swiss prices
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Re: How can I buy shares in Switzerland?

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You can actually buy the shares of the swiss national bank, not just its obligations and banknotes: https://www.six-swiss-exchange.com/s...0001319265CHF4

Their intrinsic worth however is extremely limited due to the special law about it, too bad you can't short them due to low liquidity
WTF is happening with SNBN? Why are they skyrockting?

Yes they return 0.3% in divis but effectively the shares are a perpetual bond, so the drop will be huge once interest rates increase. Not that anything to that end is on the horizon, but still, when(if?) that happens the loss in price will dwarf the payments.
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Swissquote are good and it is selfexplaining if you go to their site. Let me know if you have any issues or questions and I can help as I am using them...
Postfinance also use Swissquote and their high fees basically mean you are throwing money away... selling 30k of stocks is over 180chf! Cornertrader.ch is half that price, and Interactive Brokers even significantly cheaper than that.
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Interactive Brokers? The No. 1 choice of the EF
Definitely Interactive Brokers is the best choice in my opinion. Low commision, almost any market, forex, etc.
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Re: How can I buy shares in Switzerland?

Quite young but interesting alternative seems to be "truewealth.ch".

Although min. amount is 8.5k CHF for creating a portfolio based on your risk/return profile, they charge 0.75% p.a. (0.5% mgmt fee + 0.25% ETF costs). Quite an alternative for relatively inexpensive investing but the trade-off is less/no control over fund picking.

I haven't tried though.
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Re: How can I buy shares in Switzerland?

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Definitely Interactive Brokers is the best choice in my opinion. Low commision, almost any market, forex, etc.
I also happily use IB.

Lately I have heard of degiro though, which seems to have even lower fees. Not sure though what they can offer. Anybody here uses it?
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I also happily use IB.

Lately I have heard of degiro though, which seems to have even lower fees. Not sure though what they can offer. Anybody here uses it?
De Giro has a lot of feedback (both good and bad) online for you to Google. Personally I would not bother with them, as for me at some point lower fees have a diminishing return if the risks/unknowns increase disproportionately. It's a comparatively young company and does't have the level of trust that IB does.
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