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Any self employed teachers out there?

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I'm currently going through an interview process for freelance teaching with an international company - EF (for part time work in my area of Switzerland). I've been told to look for SE-bestatigung for information on how to register as a freelance worker, and to get back in contact with them once I've decided whether it's for me - but the internet isn't throwing up a lot of information when I type this into the search engine...I've had a look over some other threads on here and I can find lots about B permit and AHV forms - is this the same thing but with a different name perhaps? Any guidance is appreciated as I'm very new and keen to understand what I might be signing up for
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Re: Any self employed teachers out there?

I was looking for the same information. It is hard to find an employer that is willing to give a US teacher a work permit when there are UK and EU teachers available.

I would be grateful if someone could at least point out who to ask or where to look for info on freelancing registration.
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I was looking for the same information. It is hard to find an employer that is willing to give a US teacher a work permit when there are UK and EU teachers available.

I would be grateful if someone could at least point out who to ask or where to look for info on freelancing registration.
Just to clarify and help figure out what your next steps might be:

Your location is given as Zürich, yet you are asking about a non-EU work permit.

Are you already in Switzerland, and if so, on what type of permit?
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Re: Any self employed teachers out there?

I am currently getting my M.A. and have a study visa (So a student B). But since I'm getting closer to graduation, I've been looking for a job for after I'm done.
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I am currently getting my M.A. and have a study visa (So a student B). But since I'm getting closer to graduation, I've been looking for a job for after I'm done.
I believe you would then after graduation have 6 months on 'equal footing' with a CH/EU applicant to apply for jobs 'of significant scientific or economic importance'. Whether this concession also gives you the right to self employment is another question, however, and one that I don't know the answer to.

Hopefully one of the permit experts (calling Medea!) will be along soon.

By the bye - are you highlighting your 'equal footing' post graduation concession on your CV? As in, the very first thing the recruiter sees?
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I believe you would then after graduation have 6 months on 'equal footing' with a CH/EU applicant to apply for jobs 'of significant scientific or economic importance'. Whether this concession also gives you the right to self employment is another question, however, and one that I don't know the answer to.

Hopefully one of the permit experts (calling Medea!) will be along soon.

By the bye - are you highlighting your 'equal footing' post graduation concession on your CV? As in, the very first thing the recruiter sees?
No! I had no idea this was even a thing. I'll definitely look into it! I'm doing my M.A. at the University of Zurich. I should be graduating next year after I finish my thesis. Thank you so much for the info!
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As a non-EU you don't automatically get the right to self-employment, even if you've graduated from university here. You'd need to have a pretty good business plan and a fair amount of money in the bank to even consider it. Piecing together multiple small contracts won't do it.

https://www.expatica.com/ch/visas-an...ts_102462.html

Also refer to the links in one of Medea's old posts, below:

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You need to get your permit changed to a self-employed one and for that you need a good business plan and evidence of sufficient funds to keep you going while the business gets established.

https://www.ch.ch/en/self-employment/

https://www.kmu.admin.ch/kmu/en/home...ird-state.html

https://www.startups.ch/en/inform/details/forms/

If you can't meet the requirements then you won't be able to be self-employed.
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As a non-EU you don't automatically get the right to self-employment, even if you've graduated from university here. You'd need to have a pretty good business plan and a fair amount of money in the bank to even consider it. Piecing together multiple small contracts won't do it.

https://www.expatica.com/ch/visas-an...ts_102462.html

Also refer to the links in one of Medea's old posts, below:
Okay. That makes sense. But if the "equal footing" is true, then I would rather look for a regular job. It's more stable. I just need to try to find something that would give me a work permit.
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But if the "equal footing" is true, then I would rather look for a regular job. It's more stable. I just need to try to find something that would give me a work permit.
The equal footing bit is here:

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...abgaenger.html

But finding any job won't necessarily do, to gain a permit the underlined part is critical:

To find employment, foreign nationals who have earned a Swiss university-level diploma will be entitled to stay in Switzerland for six more months from the time of completing their education or postgraduate studies. Those who are successful in securing employment will be issued a work permit, provided the prospective position involves an activity of particular scientific or economic importance.
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