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Is Zurich area more expensive than New York City for example? I doubt.
Far more expensive than New York.

People here go shopping in New York!

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he is entitled to a B permit he will need to set up a company with an address in Switzerland and then a bank account. all this can be done by any lawyer.
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he is entitled to a B permit he will need to set up a company with an address in Switzerland and then a bank account. all this can be done by any lawyer.
Not entitled, no. He has no job here (yet) so no "automatic" B permit
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I think your doubts can be easily solved. Drive your car to Zurich and see it for yourself.

Sure, the raw data may say something like this:
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livin...New+York%2C+NY
but ...
Ι only care about rent, utilities & health insurance not meat, restaurants, espresso, clothes etc. And rents in NY are far higher than in Zurich. I can live without coffee, alcohol, expensive food as I need to cut back on this unhealthy lifestyle. Plus it will be only for 6 months in a year. Rest of the year in a location where cost of food and daily expenses are low. All these hypothetically of course but I consider restaurants a luxury not a necessity.
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Far more expensive than New York.

People here go shopping in New York!

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rent & health insurance
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Just keep in mind that your permit - if you get one - will become invalid after 3 or 6 months. And if you want to keep your permit during your absence you will need an address (rent) and your health insurance
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And if you want to keep your permit during your absence you will need an address (rent)
Not all addresses entail paying rent.
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Just keep in mind that your permit - if you get one - will become invalid after 3 or 6 months. And if you want to keep your permit during your absence you will need an address (rent) and your health insurance
of course, EU citizen there no quotas or barriers as you know if you can afford to rent there.
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There are also rules and regulations for EU persons. Having sufficient funds is one if you do not have a work contract
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Cheaper in NY.

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Not entitled, no. He has no job here (yet) so no "automatic" B permit
I didn't have to show that I had funds/wealth.
If you register as self-employed, you apply for and receive a permit B for self-employment only. You need to explain that your projected income is high enough to be able to maintain yourself (and family members if they are coming too) whilst living here.
Been there, done that.
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So why does he want to set up in Switzerland, a very expensive country for a smallish market, albeit with good returns.


Makes far more sense to set up warehousing/facilities/company in an EU country which is where the produce comes from and import the small volume of produce sold into Switzerland on a weekly or bi-weekly basis


As for selling to small people, it won't work as many have their own suppliers they won't change, Switzerland is not a price sensitive market but more based on perception of quality and service, also very conservatie to any change, irrespective of potential savings.

As he no doubt aware of, he needs a volume client, Coop/Migros etc and these big buyers will screw him to the floor on pricing, add a couple of additional nails to ensure their is no more blood left before asking for additional discount of 10%.


He should concentrate on doing what he does well, growing the stuff and find a partner who can distribute rather than trying to do it all as i just don't see him succeeding, especially is such a little and incestuous market as Switzerland.

Just saw this and wanted to re-emphasize this very important post. Absolutely need volume client other wise the margins you'll get won't be sustainable or relevant.


Bio movement is already established inthe major super markets from Coop, Migros, Manor, even smaller ones like Muller Reform House.


Good luck trying to get an appointment with Procurment at Coop or Migros! Speaking from personal experience and with a Swiss German friend could not get an appointment with them. Smaller ones like Muller ..you gotta go knocking on doors and even with the smaller volumes they'll want 100 percent margin meaning they'll erode your floor price..you get basically nothing if you have small volume..not worth the effort.


Its a volume game, forget Value once you factor importation costs and taxes and logistics and insurances. Up side is they may go though varied distributors so you need know your competitor landscape. Recommend you identify already existing distributors..still margin issue is there.


Have your business plan solid its not like a few years ago when the market was just getting "ripe" for bio entry.


In general, I have found importation business in general only works if you're talking super high volume, very low acquistion costs and importation costs....OR high value. Basically for Value business you're going down the path of rare/botique type items where you rape the customer due to its rareness or quality or what ever on the price..i mean really rape em so that each sale is a profitable sale by orders of magnitude of the acqusition ..and have super good advertising as start-up..later..run on word of mouth. For example you can have some rare siberian cat, piss on on the fruit, say a banana, and then sell that..say 30 CHFs for one pissed on bio banana by a rare sibirian cat. That's value-added, , High value, low volume sales, profitable (that's joke but you get the point re: CH market).


Good luck....from an Entrepreneur in the making..and in the watch and learn phase...the most important phase...then the doing..the next if not most important phase.


Note to the edit: and if you start lauging at the 30 CFH pissed on bio banana..here's "food' for thought...and i crap you not..last year in Globus supermarket at bellvue platz, I saw Mangos..selling for 25 CHF..EACH! now it was a special Mango from what I saw..but still 25 CHF each..and know what? yup..some butt-munch bought it. Saw him put it in his cart along with some other items. that was what 5 X the price of a bio-mango at Coop.
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