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I would order from that and I think British food is disgusting.
If you think that's bad then wait until you try Swiss-German food....
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Correction: it's more likely that the limited and poorly cooked range food you have tried in British hotels etc is disgusting. England has lots of great food in its cuisine.
Little dig at our deep frying ways in the North there, Chuff?

Britain's most decorated Michelin-starred chef is Scottish, Downerbuzz...I suggest you bypass the rural backwater to the south and head directly for the best part of Britain
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Little dig at our deep frying ways in the North there, Chuff?

Britain's most decorated Michelin-starred chef is Scottish, Downerbuzz...I suggest you bypass the rural backwater to the south and head directly for the best part of Britain
Eh? No, my dig was at the many crappy B&B's and hotels etc that make poor food and that most visitors tend to base their judgements on!

EDIT - Ahh Crap a moment of self-realization kicked in, I meant United Kingdom not just England... sorry I don't mean anything bad by it when I say that it's just a very old unconscious habit that refuses to die.
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Let me guess - Fed Zeppelin?
Actually, it was going to be "Pie In The Sky"... but I think yours is better!

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Correction: it's more likely that the limited and poorly cooked range food you have tried in British hotels etc is disgusting. The United Kingdom has lots of great food in its cuisine.
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If you think that's bad then wait until you try Swiss-German food....
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Little dig at our deep frying ways in the North there, Chuff?

Britain's most decorated Michelin-starred chef is Scottish, Downerbuzz...I suggest you bypass the rural backwater to the south and head directly for the best part of Britain
That comment was more for comedic affect than actual belief, but my word. I seem to have ruffled a few feathers.
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Old 27.04.2019, 13:01
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If you think that's bad then wait until you try Swiss-German food....
Better than English food, by far!

Anyway, if you want bad food, just go to Sweden or Germany.

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Better than English food, by far!

Anyway, if you want bad food, just go to Sweden or Germany.

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Any food’s bad if you don’t know where to look, though. Seems most pop over to the UK, eat in some crappy high street restaurant and judge the whole country on it.

Same goes for everywhere. I’d have sworn Italian cuisine was all deluded hype and soggy pasta until I found a decent restaurant down there a couple of years ago.

On the other hand, I’ve never found a bad restaurant in Sweden so do I assume all Swedish food is top notch?

Not eaten often enough in Germany to comment on the food standards.

I guess it’s all about perception.
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I guess itís all about perception.
I agree. But it's funny to see how some forum members immediately go into defence mode
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Iíve never found a bad restaurant in Sweden
We found it so bad that after a week we decided to take over the staff kitchen and cook some real food one evening (there were five of us from Ticino).

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We found it so bad that after a week we decided to take over the staff kitchen and cook some real food one evening (there were five of us from Ticino).

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Staff kitchen of where?
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Sweden. Only one kitchen in all the land. Like the One Ring
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Sweden. Only one kitchen in all the land. Like the One Ring
Gas or electric ring?

I meant more along the lines of whether it was a restaurant, hotel, hostel, motorway service station, etc. Was struggling to think of a scenario where restaurant staff are happy to be told their foodís not up to scratch, and can we use your staff kitchen to cook something of our own...
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I agree. But it's funny to see how some forum members immediately go into defence mode
Only when pure ignorance is involved.

Apparently, Stlemans last went to the U.K. in the 1970s when, I think we can all agree, the food was pretty dire.
The main reasons for this was probably due to the fact that rationing had only ended fifteen years before and additionally many of the smaller food suppliers had switched production from speciality products to standard fayre needed by the war effort.

Sure, you can still eat diabolically in the U.K. but check a few reviews and you should be okay.

Last year I went to an Italian restaurant, only open a few months, in a small Yorkshire market town and, on a Monday night, it was packed. The food was excellent.

Even Indian food is being done properly now in the U.K. instead of the awful red-mix stock pot for most dishes.
The food at Dishoom near Google in St. Pancras, London, was absolutely fantastic. No bookings and people were queuing for an hour to get in.
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The food at Dishoom near Google in St. Pancras, London, was absolutely fantastic. No bookings and people were queuing for an hour to get in.
I don't care how good the food was, no restaurant is worth queuing an hour for. A short wait for a table, while sipping cocktails at the bar, can be acceptable, but queuing to get in to somewhere that's so much up its own arse that it won't take bookings is just not on.

The worst of it is that it's indicative of an attitude that the customer should feel privileged to be allowed in, and that somehow the restaurant is doing them a favour by its very existence. And most likely they're going to want you out of the door as soon as possible. Screw that.
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I don't care how good the food was, no restaurant is worth queuing an hour for. A short wait for a table, while sipping cocktails at the bar, can be acceptable, but queuing to get in to somewhere that's so much up its own arse that it won't take bookings is just not on.

The worst of it is that it's indicative of an attitude that the customer should feel privileged to be allowed in, and that somehow the restaurant is doing them a favour by its very existence. And most likely they're going to want you out of the door as soon as possible. Screw that.
Absolutely your prerogative to not queue, I will also not.

But the restaurant cannot be blamed for being successful. They don't take reservations because they can fill it with walk-ins and avoid no-shows and keeping track. Btw, Dishoom is not a snooty place, but don't go there to linger for 2 hours over a glass of lassi!
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I don't care how good the food was, no restaurant is worth queuing an hour for. A short wait for a table, while sipping cocktails at the bar, can be acceptable, but queuing to get in to somewhere that's so much up its own arse that it won't take bookings is just not on.

The worst of it is that it's indicative of an attitude that the customer should feel privileged to be allowed in, and that somehow the restaurant is doing them a favour by its very existence. And most likely they're going to want you out of the door as soon as possible. Screw that.



There is a 3 stars Michelin Dim Sum restaurant in Hong Kong, they don't take reservations, they don't need to: it is always good, always packed and you always wait.


They don't need reservations, why should they bother, they can fill the restaurant several times over, no pressure on service times and vacating the tables for second or even third services, it's not a question of attitude nor time pressure, just common sense !
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Only when pure ignorance is involved.

Apparently, Stlemans last went to the U.K. in the 1970s when, I think we can all agree, the food was pretty dire.
The main reasons for this was probably due to the fact that rationing had only ended fifteen years before and additionally many of the smaller food suppliers had switched production from speciality products to standard fayre needed by the war effort.

Sure, you can still eat diabolically in the U.K. but check a few reviews and you should be okay.

Last year I went to an Italian restaurant, only open a few months, in a small Yorkshire market town and, on a Monday night, it was packed. The food was excellent.

Even Indian food is being done properly now in the U.K. instead of the awful red-mix stock pot for most dishes.
The food at Dishoom near Google in St. Pancras, London, was absolutely fantastic. No bookings and people were queuing for an hour to get in.
Your example doesn't really help. First you state something about Swiss-German food in Switzerland but the examples you give from the UK are an Italian and an Indian restaurant. What about the British food?
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Your example doesn't really help. First you state something about Swiss-German food in Switzerland but the examples you give from the UK are an Italian and an Indian restaurant. What about the British food?



Indian food as usually served in UK is normally British food !!


When the Brits were in India, they wanted meat and not so spicy dishes so a lot of what we think in Indian food was actually developed for the British personnel stationed in India



Indians are mainly vegitarians
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Indian food as usually served in UK is normally British food !!


When the Brits were in India, they wanted meat and not so spicy dishes so a lot of what we think in Indian food was actually developed for the British personnel stationed in India



Indians are mainly vegitarians

Some of it was. Korma, for instance. Lots not. It's a bit of a sweeping statement to say most are vegetarian, I feel.
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Some of it was. Korma, for instance. Lots not. It's a bit of a sweeping statement to say most are vegetarian, I feel.

I think you'll find before around 1750's, the large majority of India were vegetarians.


The British wanted meat and forced Indian servants to cook accordingly
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