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Is MBA Geneva a good option?

Hello,

I was wondering what is the best option for an engineer. I have come across multiple job ads that require a PMI certificate for Project Manager positions. They specifically require a PMP.

However, people advise that MBA is stronger and more appreciated, although I don't come across it as a prerequisite very often.

Yes, I know typical question and you will say that PMP is different than MBA, but which would a company appreciate more?

And the second question is, is the Gva school of business worth trying? I definitely cannot afford IMD and St Gallen for the time being, but if the Gva is not worth for the price, would it be better to invest on PMP certificate?

Could a Gva MBA graduate advise on this? Did you really see network compensate for its price? I work in Geneva, so it would be doable for me.

I intend to stay in the pharma industry. Thank you in advance for your help.
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Hello,

I was wondering what is the best option for an engineer. I have come across multiple job ads that require a PMI certificate for Project Manager positions. They specifically require a PMP.

However, people advise that MBA is stronger and more appreciated, although I don't come across it as a prerequisite very often.

Yes, I know typical question and you will say that PMP is different than MBA, but which would a company appreciate more?

And the second question is, is the Gva school of business worth trying? I definitely cannot afford IMD and St Gallen for the time being, but if the Gva is not worth for the price, would it be better to invest on PMP certificate?

Could a Gva MBA graduate advise on this? Did you really see network compensate for its price? I work in Geneva, so it would be doable for me.

I intend to stay in the pharma industry. Thank you in advance for your help.
There are two reason for getting an MBA:
1. Gain the knowledge and experience it offers
2. To gain a prestigious qualification that will open doors for you.

Geneva might answer 1, if it is at least as cheap as other school, but it will not answer 2.
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Re: Is MBA Geneva a good option?

I have recently finished an MBA program from a pretty good business school. Thankfully I'm gainfully employed but I keep an eye out for interesting roles. Whilst having the MBA ticks a box regarding a prerequisite of the role, that's all its done so far.
Obviously one can't expect jobs to magically fall in your lap once you have an MBA, but my impression is that the extent of differentiation they provide is quite diminished compared to say 15 years ago.
Also, upon completion of the MBA program, the university provided some careers advisory lectures. The information they provided during these lectures was much more realistic regarding what an MBA will and won't do, than the information provided in the marketing material before commencement of the MBA. I think far less people would sign up had these lectures occurred up front.
Having said that, you learn alot from an MBA and generally I think most MBA graduates manage to leverage it at some point, some sooner than others.
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Re: Is MBA Geneva a good option?

My recommendation is you decide exactly what you want. Project Management training is very different and gives a different set of knowledge vs. a MBA.


A reality is that most jobs have some form of Project Management as a basis for getting the job done! Its a basic competency to have and depending on the job, one may not nened high complexity Project Management training like PMP. Maybe if you do something like IT infrastructure building or high complexity project with multiple moving parts that need coordination and alignment using highly engineered and completx Project Management approaches then OK. If not, say in most Business roles, NO, just having a half-a-brain and maybe taking a basic project managment course of no more than a day will be sufficient.


For MBA, I think the value of this is really questionable. I have a science training background (ex scientist/lab rat), I did not need a MBA get a nice role in Marketing and certainly my experience show me having an MBA is not a competitive advantage in a career. I have met many joint MBA, slash, MD, or PhD, etc. etc. they have held the same level roles I have had and certainly NOT a predictor of advancement - rather that's more about leadership compentcy, experience, work-style, politcal saaviness and sometimes, if not most, being at the right place and the right time.


Previous poster is correct - pay attention to number 2, MBAs from Harvard , NYU, and U.Penn will open doors, don't know about St. Gallen but what doors are you looking at?


I don't have a MBA, but my partner does, an her and I ended up inthe same industry, same functional group, same title, a differentiated responsbility but nontheless same spot, her MBA, me no MBA. So think about what you want and where you want to go.


My only other advise is don't fall into a trap where i see many people fall, is that additional education is key to getting a job - such as an MBA. See what you can get with your enginerring degree, start there and learn over time where you can go, then define first what experience you need and if additional education is necessary. in the latter case, it may not be a MBA but can be a more targeted certificate program that may carry more value.


I didn't need a MBA, and any other training I got was opportunistic and ....paid on the company's dime ..and time!!! NOT mine.


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