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kosalan 09.02.2020 20:14

any e commerce owners here for a chat ?
 
Hello everyone .

i just want to make sure and clear my doubts about running a e commerce shop . for that , im looking for a e commerce business owner who is shipping outside and inside of Switzerland . so we can meet and talk about my doubts .

is anyone who is willing to help me out in this point ?

thank you everyone in advance .

best regards

Helena Paris 10.02.2020 13:17

Re: any e commerce owners here for a chat ?
 
I am just starting, but I took some courses and have some experience, what do you need to know, any specific worries ?

grumpygrapefruit 10.02.2020 14:25

Re: any e commerce owners here for a chat ?
 
I run one, but shipping only within CH.

kosalan 10.02.2020 19:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Helena Paris (Post 3146753)
I am just starting, but I took some courses and have some experience, what do you need to know, any specific worries ?

thank you for replay , i wanna know about tax ,also about shipping inside of Switzerland ,also out side of Switzerland . also do you use Swiss post for anything ? i have some doubts like this . and i have almost finished with my online shop design ,and also products .

and please ,did you take courses here in Switzerland ?if yes , can i know where please ?

kosalan 10.02.2020 21:50

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Originally Posted by grumpygrapefruit (Post 3146778)
I run one, but shipping only within CH.

thank you for the replay .what about taxes within CH?

grumpygrapefruit 10.02.2020 23:26

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Originally Posted by kosalan (Post 3146931)
thank you for the replay .what about taxes within CH?

What taxes are you referring to?

Helena Paris 11.02.2020 10:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kosalan (Post 3146898)
thank you for replay , i wanna know about tax ,also about shipping inside of Switzerland ,also out side of Switzerland . also do you use Swiss post for anything ? i have some doubts like this . and i have almost finished with my online shop design ,and also products .

and please ,did you take courses here in Switzerland ?if yes , can i know where please ?

Yes I am planning to use the post (for now I will ship my products myself) but in the next couple of months, I will use the business and wharehousing and storage solutions service of the post.Basically you give them your inventory, they store it and ship it directly to your customers.I know there are lots of third part services like this but I don't trust them, and for me it's better to trust the swiss post.
Check this out: https://www.post.ch/en/business-solu...sing-logistics

For taxes, there is of course the 8% VAT, and then I have chosen to use the services of an agency to do all my taxes, also to clear customs and importations process.
Let's keep in touch I'll tell you more as I move on
Cheers

Rjellsch 11.02.2020 11:05

Re: any e commerce owners here for a chat ?
 
Things which are significant in my experience.

What type of volume are you anticipating?

How consistent are your shipping needs? Large, bulky packages. Lightweight mailers. Flat envelopes??

Have you considered the amount and types of packing material you will be using?

Is there an existing business whose shipping model you could copy?

There are continuous optimizations which can be made to increase efficiency, however they are usually dependent on other aspects of the business.

Id also speculate that unless you grossly miscalculate, your initial shipping solutions will not be the primary driver of success or failure.

kosalan 11.02.2020 21:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpygrapefruit (Post 3146970)
What taxes are you referring to?

i mean , if you sell inside of CH .. do i need to take tax[VAT] ? because i heard ,we do not need to pay taxes till we reach 100 K in a year , if yes ,should i take tax from buyers ? also if i take tax , should i pay it for GOV before i make 100K ? because i really have no idea in this 2 point . [shipping and taxes ] .

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helena Paris (Post 3147047)
Yes I am planning to use the post (for now I will ship my products myself) but in the next couple of months, I will use the business and wharehousing and storage solutions service of the post.Basically you give them your inventory, they store it and ship it directly to your customers.I know there are lots of third part services like this but I don't trust them, and for me it's better to trust the swiss post.
Check this out: https://www.post.ch/en/business-solu...sing-logistics

For taxes, there is of course the 8% VAT, and then I have chosen to use the services of an agency to do all my taxes, also to clear customs and importations process.
Let's keep in touch I'll tell you more as I move on
Cheers

sure yes ,and im gonna rent my own warehouse ,i think better if i go also with an agency for taxes .8% Vat for inside of CH or also outside of CH ?? i mean in Europe countries ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rjellsch (Post 3147054)
Things which are significant in my experience.

What type of volume are you anticipating?

How consistent are your shipping needs? Large, bulky packages. Lightweight mailers. Flat envelopes??

Have you considered the amount and types of packing material you will be using?

Is there an existing business whose shipping model you could copy?

There are continuous optimizations which can be made to increase efficiency, however they are usually dependent on other aspects of the business.

Id also speculate that unless you grossly miscalculate, your initial shipping solutions will not be the primary driver of success or failure.

yes you are right , thats why i want talk with some E-Commerce peoples about it.

grumpygrapefruit 12.02.2020 09:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kosalan (Post 3147283)
i mean , if you sell inside of CH .. do i need to take tax[VAT] ? because i heard ,we do not need to pay taxes till we reach 100 K in a year , if yes ,should i take tax from buyers ? also if i take tax , should i pay it for GOV before i make 100K ? because i really have no idea in this 2 point . [shipping and taxes ] .

.

You really need to see an accountant because there is so much you don't understand. Is your company set up yet? Are you registered as self employed or do have a GmbH?

kosalan 12.02.2020 18:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpygrapefruit (Post 3147350)
You really need to see an accountant because there is so much you don't understand. Is your company set up yet? Are you registered as self employed or do have a GmbH?

yes , i need to see .and right now it is Self Employed .

NotAllThere 12.02.2020 21:15

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Yeah. You really really do need to.

kosalan 13.02.2020 17:34

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Originally Posted by NotAllThere (Post 3147686)
Yeah. You really really do need to.

yes .i will make an appointment :)

grumpygrapefruit 13.02.2020 18:02

Re: any e commerce owners here for a chat ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kosalan (Post 3147970)
yes .i will make an appointment :)

OK, I'll give you some starter tips.

You don't charge MwsT (VAT) to anyone until you can register for MwsT. And you can only do that if your sales are over 100,000 CHF in a year (or in some circumstances you can prove to the tax people that your sales will top 100,000 in the coming year).

Once registered for MwsT you can deduct the MwsT you pay on supplies and services against what you charge your customers, so it does bring your overheads down a little. And afterwards, in most cases you still don't charge MwsT to export customers.

But really, go and see an accountant, a few hundred chuffs spent now on getting your accounts set up properly could save you a lot of hassle later on.

kosalan 13.02.2020 20:39

Re: any e commerce owners here for a chat ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpygrapefruit (Post 3147980)
OK, I'll give you some starter tips.

You don't charge MwsT (VAT) to anyone until you can register for MwsT. And you can only do that if your sales are over 100,000 CHF in a year (or in some circumstances you can prove to the tax people that your sales will top 100,000 in the coming year).

Once registered for MwsT you can deduct the MwsT you pay on supplies and services against what you charge your customers, so it does bring your overheads down a little. And afterwards, in most cases you still don't charge MwsT to export customers.

But really, go and see an accountant, a few hundred chuffs spent now on getting your accounts set up properly could save you a lot of hassle later on.

thank you mate ,you almost clear my doubts .and yes im gonna meet an accountant . also now i need to figure out about custom [outside of CH ]

grumpygrapefruit 14.02.2020 09:49

Re: any e commerce owners here for a chat ?
 
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Originally Posted by kosalan (Post 3148046)
thank you mate ,you almost clear my doubts .and yes im gonna meet an accountant . also now i need to figure out about custom [outside of CH ]

That has nothing to do with you, it's your customers who will have to pay that, and it will vary depending on the country and what products (and how much) you are sending.

kosalan 16.02.2020 21:38

Re: any e commerce owners here for a chat ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpygrapefruit (Post 3148175)
That has nothing to do with you, it's your customers who will have to pay that, and it will vary depending on the country and what products (and how much) you are sending.

oh then im almost clear with my doubts .thank you all mates .great :)


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