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Online shop in CH - business and taxes

Hello,

I recently moved to Switzerland and I'm supposed to get a Ci permit soon (I am a non-EU citizen). I will have a full time job in a company, but apart form that, I have a hobby that produces items that I'd like to sell.

I would like to sell some items online, and donate the money that I would get to charity organisations. A thing to mention, this will not be a mass production and I'd be happy if I manage to sell 1-2 items per month.

My questions are:
  1. Should I have a business registered for this? I don't know if I can get a permit for being self-employed if I already work for another company.
  2. Am I supposed to pay taxes? If yes, what is the process? Keeping track of everything sold and then just reporting it at the end of the year?

I am looking into some options for online stores, and also using a platform like Etsy, but I'm still not sure if I can start selling right away.
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Re: Online shop in CH - business and taxes

For such small amounts, you will come under a "Hobby Business" - I can't recall the limit, but unless your 1 - 2 items a month cost 1000.00 or more, you'll be under the limit and won't need to register anything
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Re: Online shop in CH - business and taxes

Would you mind telling us what you make?
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Re: Online shop in CH - business and taxes

If you get a Ci permit then you are a family member which works for a tax exempt international organization, embassy, consulate, UN Mission, or the Cern.

A Ci permit is usually only valid for the specific approved activity. Any other gainful activity would need additional authorisation by the competent authority.

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The "Ci" permit is issued for a salaried activity (full time or part time) or for an independent activity. The independent activity may only be exercised if the holder of the "Ci" permit has obtained the necessary authorisation to practice the profession or activity in question from the competent authorities (such as officials responsible for commercial activities or for health matters). The "Ci" permit is valid for the duration of the contract or for the duration of the independent activity, and for no more than two years.
https://www.eda.admin.ch/missions/mi...ily-staff.html

But as grumpygrapefruit says. Not everything is a gainful activity. If you barely break even or make constant losses it is considered a past time activity, Hobby, or as it is known as "Liebhaberei". Which means you cannot deduct losses but also do not have to declare the odd income you might have.

One important limit is an income of CHF 2300 after all expenses. If you earn at least that much you must register with the social security office.
https://www.ahv-iv.ch/p/2.04.f

An other important limit is how much the minimum deduction for sideline income is: On federal level it is CHF 800 but CHF 0 for Canton Geneva.
https://www.estv.admin.ch/dam/estv/d...werb_fr-fr.pdf

PS: Yes you should keep track of all expenses and income. Regardless how much you make each year.
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