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Permit with New Business?

I have been looking into opening a business here, and can't seem to find online whether or not a non-EU national could get a permit in the CH if they started a new company. Anyone have any experience with this? I know that the business has to be able to provide jobs for Swiss nationals, and that there are restrictions to where non-EU citizens can buy property, but I couldn't find out anything about permits and how that works if you don't already have one. Any info would be appreciated (or I'm sure there are other older threads on this that I am not seeing...) thanks all!
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Re: Permit with New Business?

Try looking at the threads by thecapaccino, she is going through this process at the moment.
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Re: Permit with New Business?

Lou, E.T. is a non-EU passport holder (who is resisting getting married) and thus I think has more hoops through which to jump for this process.
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Re: Permit with New Business?

thecapuccino is non-eu too (just double checked one of her posts to make sure).
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Re: Permit with New Business?

ah yes, why did I think EU passport holder? I must be getting old.

So from reading a post in one of her threads - EU or Swiss director seems to help. A lot.
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Lou, E.T. is a non-EU passport holder (who is resisting getting married) and thus I think has more hoops through which to jump for this process.
LOL, yes, that's me. Is resistance really futile?
I'll check out those other threads too... tks
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Re: Permit with New Business?

Am on it guys...will try to direct English Teacher in the right direction. And yes I am non-EU...hoops...hoops!!!
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Re: Permit with New Business?

I have two cents which you can have for free.

The NORMAL WAY (which is actually theway rich folks do it) is for the non EU subperson (I am one) to start their own company and pay themselves a nice fat salary.

This way your company can do whatever business it likes. the idea is ost often to get a B permit this way, however, not to start a business.

Clearly this is extremely expensive. The only reason it exists as an option is to make work for lawyers and to allow wealthy foreigners to be treated like real people from europe.

So you don't want to start your own company. All the lawyers will say you do, but you don't. You really don't. It is like paying an extra 25% tax at least, by the time you add up all the little extra costs for this and that over the year.

So, the issue is more whether you have a B permit already. If you do, i THINK ( I am really not 100% - you must check) that this means you can do business AS LONG AS YOU PAY TAX.

My understanding of the law is that Switzerland has no "work permit" as such. There are only residence permits, because the swiss have worked out (clever swiss - cleverer than the UK, anyway) that a person who is allowed to live in a place may as well be allowed to work and pay tax there.

So, if you have the B permit, i believe you are authorised to operate a business. Whether your permit is renewed after you submit tax returns showing self employment, that is another question. My belief is that if you were paying tax, and not injecting crack into your eyeballs where the kids could see it, you would have no problems.

I could be wrong on this. It is entirely possible that somewhere there is a special regluation that says non EU sub humans cannot operate a business on a B permit. I know EU humans can, and I know you can change jobs without asking permission even if you are non EU scum.

The thing is, i would do it and submit the tax return. If there were any questions, or if some government Johny made a fuss in german at you, i would start screaming that i was being oppressed, and my human rights are in tatters. And so on and so forth.

See, it really comes down to your human rights, as a holder of a B permit. If you do not have the liberty to trade and feed yourself (and generate tax) when you lose your job, you become fearful of losing your job and quasi slavery results. this is so against the Swiss adherence to fundmental human rights in the workplace that any minor provision attempting to punish auslanders on B permits by restricting their right to trade to live must be wrong in law.

That would be the argument, anyway. I say trade on, pay your tax, and let the commisar for cheese catch up with you if he finds the time.
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