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Re: Starting a business in Switzerland.

Hello all,

I am also wanting to find out some information on starting a business in Switzerland as a Non European (I'm Australian and have a youth mobility visa to work in UK). I am currently in Switzerland as a tourist and am looking very seriously into self employment and from my research I have determined that there is quite a large gap in Switzerland in my skilled area.

My only barrier (which is quite large) for applying for a residency permit at the moment is a proof of business address. Has anyone been in a similar situation that can provide some assistance?

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Hi guys,

I am an Non-EU member and is just wondering if anyone who was in my position had started a business successfully with a Swiss national? If so, would you be able to provide some advise surround the work permit? The only thing I could find on the website's the links below and there are quotas as to how many non-EU member there is that will be accepted.

http://www.takingupresidence.com/swi...zerland.3.html

Non-EU/EFTA nationals can obtain a work and residence permit provided the desired market is not saturated and can create job opportunities for Swiss nationals. Foreigners without residence permits can still own an interest in a business operated by a Swiss national, regardless of the percentage of equity. Some sectors may require licenses or permits (such as banking, insurance, hotel and restaurants, medical and law), depending on the canton.

http://www.gruenden.ch/fileadmin/cus...en2_112011.pdf

Third-country citizens without a residence or settlement permit can only become self-employed if the planned endeavor is economically meaningful and the required financial and operational conditions are met. The application forms and documents (incl. a business plan) are examined by the labor market authorities.
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Re: Starting a business in Switzerland.

it is really interesting discussion
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Hello all,

I am also wanting to find out some information on starting a business in Switzerland as a Non European (I'm Australian and have a youth mobility visa to work in UK). I am currently in Switzerland as a tourist and am looking very seriously into self employment and from my research I have determined that there is quite a large gap in Switzerland in my skilled area.

My only barrier (which is quite large) for applying for a residency permit at the moment is a proof of business address. Has anyone been in a similar situation that can provide some assistance?

Thanks in advance.
I am also in a similar situation. I am an Australian citizen and I am a registered sole trader selling digital items via the internet from my own home. Annual income is approximately $250,000 USD. I am looking to relocate to Switzerland and co-found a GmbH between myself and my EU business partner.

I won't lie in saying that part of my move is to eventually escape the ludicrously high Australian tax rates. As paying low tax is a priority of mine, which Swiss cantons would you avise me to register the business address under?

All I need to operate my business is a computer and an internet connection. All other running requirements are off sourced. Personally, I'd like to be close to either Zurich or Geneva for air transportation purposes.

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Re: Starting a business in Switzerland.

I also just read that in the canton of Berne, both domicile and holding companies are exempt from municipal or cantonal profit taxes, paying only a maximum tax of 0.42% of capita. This is provided that the company's activities take place outside of Switzerland. Because the majority of my customers reside in Europe (including Switzerland, but very few), the Americas, Asia and Oceania, would my GmbH qualify for this tax exempt if I was to register it in Berne?
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I am also in a similar situation. I am an Australian citizen and I am a registered sole trader selling digital items via the internet from my own home. Annual income is approximately $250,000 USD. I am looking to relocate to Switzerland and co-found a GmbH between myself and my EU business partner.

I won't lie in saying that part of my move is to eventually escape the ludicrously high Australian tax rates. As paying low tax is a priority of mine, which Swiss cantons would you avise me to register the business address under?

All I need to operate my business is a computer and an internet connection. All other running requirements are off sourced. Personally, I'd like to be close to either Zurich or Geneva for air transportation purposes.

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Having a business isn't going to give you a permit, unless you are going to employ a bunch of people in Switzerland. Are you eligible for a permit? Maybe you should start there first.
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Re: Starting a business in Switzerland.

I was under the impression that if I co-found a GmbH with another EU citizen and nominate myself as a director of the GmbH, I become an employee of a Swiss company thus granting me a class B permit.

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Having a business isn't going to give you a permit, unless you are going to employ a bunch of people in Switzerland. Are you eligible for a permit? Maybe you should start there first.
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I was under the impression that if I co-found a GmbH with another EU citizen and nominate myself as a director of the GmbH, I become an employee of a Swiss company thus granting me a class B permit.
But the company needs to make an application for a permit showing why the person they wish to employ is so special and can't befound within Switzerland or the EU.

Permits are not automatic with the creation of a company, that would be far too easy....
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Re: Starting a business in Switzerland.

Completely understandable. Thank you for your reply. Can you direct me to any information in regards to these 'special' requirements that a non-Swiss 'employee' would need to posses?
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It all depends very much on the nature of the business, where it will be done, where the payments will come from. If there is no physical presence then you might be taking in money from all over the world?
Have you done any projections such as expected turnover, and how much of that will be profit?
I will still require a physical workspace to produce work, however my business has been step up to be completely mobile. I am the only 'registered' employee of my company. All other work that I can't handle, I outsource locally and globally. I only need a computer and an internet connection to produce work, so I can work from home. I have customers all from all over the world. I also have estimated future profit projections and expected turnover, henceforth why Switzerland's more 'kinder' tax rates will be worth the move halfway across the world.

To be honest there are a better countries to base my business in like Singapore for example, but Switzerland is a part of the world that I'll really like to experience and I already have quite a number of contacts in the area already. However, I personally want to have my business registered and based in the same country that I choose to reside in.
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Re: Starting a business in Switzerland.

Hello,
I too would like to have a home based business so that I can live in Vevey, Switzerland. I have years of experience in banking and real estate in Texas.
I will soon be marrying my Swiss fiance and would love to have a business whereby I can utilize my computer and business skills. Since I am 66 now, I believe it would be difficult for me to find employment in Vevey.

I would love some feedback from those who have been where I am going in my life, my career, and my being self employed. I should be settled by December this year.

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I'm a UK citizen with a C permit thinking o starting an online business selling athletics equipment in switzerland which would be imported from outside. Can you help me with the following questions:
1) do I need to setup any sort of a company just to get started or can I just setup a web page and start selling, registering the income on my personal tax return?
2) if I have to setup a company which one would be the best?
3) is there anything I should bear in mind with regards to importing or customs?
4) I already work for a company in Switzerland. Is there any issue with me being self employed also?
5) do u think such a business would work in switzerland. I don't see so many online business' like the uk here?

Thanks alot for all your help

Can someone answer this question? Thank you very much
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I'm a UK citizen with a C permit thinking o starting an online business selling athletics equipment in switzerland which would be imported from outside. Can you help me with the following questions:
1) do I need to setup any sort of a company just to get started or can I just setup a web page and start selling, registering the income on my personal tax return?
2) if I have to setup a company which one would be the best?
3) is there anything I should bear in mind with regards to importing or customs?
4) I already work for a company in Switzerland. Is there any issue with me being self employed also?
5) do u think such a business would work in switzerland. I don't see so many online business' like the uk here?

Thanks alot for all your help
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Can someone answer this question? Thank you very much
Just wondering why you're asking this? The post from NAT110205 is from October 2011. Are you in exactly the same situation (UK citizen wanting to run a sporting goods company) or...?? Also there were some lovely links with useful information posted on the very first page of the thread. See below.

Hope you find what you're looking for.

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Here are some more websites you might find useful....

http://www.ch.ch/

http://www.gza.ch/default_en.asp?pgn=/content/06/06_001en.asp - This one is Zürich specific.

http://www.europa.admin.ch/pub/best/e/eu_in_ch.pdf?S - This one is for European Nationals only.

http://www.standortschweiz.ch/seco/internet/en/proceed/checklists/index.html

http://www.ige.ch/ - Information regarding trademarks, design protection, patents and copyrights.

http://www.estv.admin.ch/data/e/index.htm - All about taxes.

http://web2.cylex.de/homepage/Profil_neu.asp - A free Company profile can be placed.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SwissEntrepreneur/ - A forum for expats and Swiss nationals to discuss small business plans, find partners, test ideas and generally discuss anything related to starting and running a small business in Switzerland.

Most of the links I have posted are from Ed's Swiss Entrepreneur Links Folder. HTH.

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Just wondering why you're asking this? The post from NAT110205 is from October 2011. Are you in exactly the same situation (UK citizen wanting to run a sporting goods company) or...?? Also there were some lovely links with useful information posted on the very first page of the thread. See below.

Hope you find what you're looking for.

Hi,

I have requested to someone to reply to NAT110205 questions, cause they are very specific and nobody as answered it even they are very interesting to know.
The links are interesting, but once you enter to read the amount of information there is around, you get confused and mostly you have to end up paying a consultant company to clarify you and tell you specifically what has to be done step by step.
If someone can reply very specifically to NAT it will help very much.

regards
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Hi,

I have requested to someone to reply to NAT110205 questions, cause they are very specific and nobody as answered it even they are very interesting to know.
The links are interesting, but once you enter to read the amount of information there is around, you get confused and mostly you have to end up paying a consultant company to clarify you and tell you specifically what has to be done step by step.
If someone can reply very specifically to NAT it will help very much.
How about since you're interested in the topic, you research the answers then you let us know what you came up with?
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Re: Starting a business in Switzerland.

Hello! A month ago I opened an online-shop with handmade jewelry (mostly bracelets from gemstons, want to expand it later). In January I gave the questionnarie with information about shop and myself (have permit B) to the Gemeinde and the man who consulted me told that everything is fine and I could open the shop. Now I received a letter from Socialvezicherungsanstalt, that they need a lot of additional documents, such as signed contracts with customers (but I send the orders by post), accounting data etc. But I have no ideas how should it looks like. Is there any special acconting book I can buy in a shop and fill in?
Also the question is - if anybody has online shop here - what kind of invoices and receiptes you send to the customers? Thanx in advance!
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10 min and 20,000 CHF and you're done
How much do they charge? Is there a cheaper company that can help with set up?

20,000 CHF is the capital necessary to set up a GMBH.

What is the cheapest way to set one up in order to minimise all the legal, accounting admin costs? Can some of the paperwork be done by the enterpreneur in order to reduce the legal costs?

What is the cheapest way to "run" the company if it is a simple business at least at the beginning in order not to incurr some big ongoing costs (legal, accounting, admin) so that the CHF20K capital can be used to grow the business?
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10 min and 20,000 CHF and you're done
Not quite!

You need to open a business bank account, deposit the 20K. Then you take that evidence to a Notar, and sign in their presence that you understand the implications. Plus of course there is their fee.

But other than that, it is pretty straightforward.
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I would say it depends a lot on the business you are planning to start and what kind of risks are involved etc. It is pretty straightforward but there are a lot of things to take into account (insurance, liability, taxes etc.). Just my two cents
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Re: How to set up your own company in CH

Where does the 20,000K come from?? That is only if you set up a GmBH. If you set up as a sole trader like i did then you dont need to pay this. The catch with the sole trader is that it needs to have your name in it somewhere.
I set up my business as a foreigner with a non eu passport and found it very easy. I also went through start ups, so to make sure i had the correct paperwork. They were very helpful and then process was very quick.
They charged me approx 500CHF for everything and then you need to paxy to register the business name which i think was about 200 CHF.

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Where does the 20,000K come from?? That is only if you set up a GmBH. If you set up as a sole trader like i did then you dont need to pay this. The catch with the sole trader is that it needs to have your name in it somewhere.
THANKS. What about personal liability?? I think that the only way to avoid personal liability, one needs to set up GMBH which asks for CHF20K capital???

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I would say it depends a lot on the business you are planning to start and what kind of risks are involved etc. It is pretty straightforward but there are a lot of things to take into account (insurance, liability, taxes etc.). Just my two cents
A very simple business. A few units that generate revenues, simple expences,

The owners do not want any personal liabilities so what would be the cheapest way to go?

How much do accountants, tax advisors cost per year if accounts are simple.

3 units make a certain revenue each minus cost of goods sold, transport expences, travel expences, minimum cost for an office.... No employees at the beginning as the owners are running the business and they do not pay themselves a salary at the beginning until the business makes money

Insurance simple and I think it wouldf be cheap as simple business

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